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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 17:57

Given that there is no spouse for Sarah on page 1456, as everyone else on the page is accounted for, and we have a bride almost certainly called Sarah missing from page 1466, and MarieCeleste says the image for Sarah Baines is a blurry 1466, I think we're as sure as we can be without you actually purchasing the marriage cert that Sarah Baines is the missing bride for Archibald..

Unfortunately there seem to have been more than one Sarah Baines of the right age/birthplace to match with Sarah Edwards in census 1911.

There are also three other Edwards children with a mother maiden name Baines born in the Leighton Buzzard area, who could well be Archibald and Sarah's. I can't find another Edwards-Baines marriage in that particular locality to account for them.

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Dec 2012 17:27

Kucinta,
Not sure what to think about Sarah Baines as I am following the Edwards family so Definitely Archibald William Edward. As you have said a purchase of the Certificate would be the answer to this.

thanks to all those that had input to this post. :-)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:40

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reginald Simons and wife May emigrated in 1909, so that leaves only Sarah Baines without a spouse on page 1456.


Name: Reginald SIMONS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of departure: 19 May 1909
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Merchant
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 15


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

May SIMONS Page 9 of 15 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



MAJESTIC
97763
F C Beadnell
White Star
New York, USA
14909
10146
414

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:28

From page 1456

Looks like Alice Mary Underlin married Archie Frank Samuels:

Address: 14 Market St Watford County: Hertfordshire

SAMUELS, Archie Frank Head Married 2 years M 39 1872 Railway Lap Maker Paddington London<<<<
SAMUELS, Alice Mary Wife Married F 38 1873 Bushley Herts<<
SAMUELS, Hilda Daughter Married F 2 1909 Watford Herts
SAMUELS, Sarah Mother Widow F 79 1832 Bushley Herts


Am having trouble identifying Reginald Simons in census 1911 - I was hoping to find him with May (Wayman}, which would leave Sarah Baines left over from that page

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:15

Thanks MC and Stuart for checking Sarah Baines out for me and giving feedback :-)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:13

Three possible Sarah Baines born in Leighton Buzzard (see Sarah Edwards census 1911)


Births Mar 1879 Baines Sarah Leighton B. 3b 421

Births Dec 1879
Baines Sarah Leighton B. 3b 384a
Baines Sarah Jane Leighton B. 3b 386

Births Jun 1878 BAINES Sarah Leighton B. 3b 432

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Dec 2012 15:11

Kucinta - definitely think you're right with Sarah Baines. Looked at the original image and it's a blurry "1466"

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2012 15:11

Looking at the original page for Sarah Baines via freebmd, the third number is definitely difficult to determine - one person has transcribed as 3a 1456 and another as 14_6.
Kucinta has probably found the answer, the certificate would confirm

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:07

Andrew, what do you think of Sarah Baines, a fifth person on page 1456 (mistranscribed for 1466??) as I posted further up the thread?

Or have you dismissed her for some reason?

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Dec 2012 15:05

Sorry just realized I put 1879 for Evie (just to confuse) :-(

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:05

Further children with mmn Baines as per the ref I posted earlier:

Births Dec 1911
Edwards Joseph J Baines Leighton B. 3b 622


Births Dec 1919
Edwards Edward Baines Leighton B. 3b 630

Births Jun 1922
Edwards May R Baines Leighton B. 3b 607

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 15:01

I think she's Sarah Baines, as I posted earlier.

Do you know of any children born post 1911 so we could check mother's maiden name to confirm?

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2012 15:01

Census to show details
1911 census transcription details for: Blenheim Cheddington Tring

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN8980 RG78PN476 RD177 SD3 ED3 SN34
Reg. District: Leighton Buzzard
Sub District: Ivinghoe
Parish: Cheddington
Enum. District: 3
Address: Blenheim Cheddington Tring
County: Bedfordshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
EDWARDS, Archibald Head Married M 27 1884 Cowman On Farm Bucks Cheddington
EDWARDS, Sarah Wife Married 2 years F 32 1879 Beds Leighton Buzzard
EDWARDS, Evic Daughter F 2 1909 Bucks Cheddington

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Dec 2012 15:00

looks like you may have to get the cert as the brides name doesnt want to come up

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Dec 2012 14:59

1911 Census says married 2 years. & Evie is 2 years old

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Dec 2012 14:57

Possibly?

Marriages Jun 1908
BAINES Sarah Watford 3a 1456


She's the fifth person on the page, so a simple mistranscription of the page no?

1456 when it should have been 1466?

Marriages Jun 1908 )
BAINES Sarah Watford 3a 1456
Samuels Archie Frank Watford 3a 1456
Simons Reginald Watford 3a 1456
Underlin Alice Mary Watford 3a 1456
Wayman May Watford 3a 1456

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Dec 2012 14:56

just so we have something to work too

1911 census
Name: Archibald Edwards
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Cheddington
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Blenheim, Cheddington, Tring
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cowman On Farm
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Registration District Number: 177
Sub-registration district: Ivinghoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 8980
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Edwards 27
Sarah Edwards 32
Eric Edwards 2 (correction done!!)

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 8980; Schedule Number: 34

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2012 14:54

Names as shown- is this the record you mean?

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
EDWARDS Archibald William Watford 3a 1466
Field Ernest William Watford 3a 1466
HALL Rose Edith Watford 3a 1466

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Dec 2012 14:54

Is that the right age for Evie?

Do you know that they did actually marry?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Dec 2012 14:51

probably mistranscribed