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Cecil Henry Dodd

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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 18 Dec 2012 03:00

I am trying to find detail of Cecil Henry Dodd born about 1903in Cheriton who appears to have been adopted by William and Jane Court in Hawkhurst in Kent (as shown on the 1911 census) There is also an adopted sister Gladys Edna Payne. I have been able to find a birth for Gladys but not for Cecil. Can anyone suggest another channel to search or how to access adoption records. William and Jane Court are my gr grandparents.
Cheers Yvonne Graham

Penny

Penny Report 18 Dec 2012 05:45

for ref

Name: William Court
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shoulden, Kent
Civil parish: Hawkhurst
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Oglers Farm, Hawkhurst, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farmer
Registration district: Cranbrook
Registration District Number: 53
Sub-registration district: Hawkhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 211
Piece: 4211
Household Members: Name Age
William Court 57
Jane Court 47
Frederick Thomas Court 15
Dorothy May Court 12
Grace Lilian Court 6
Cecil Henry Dodd 8
Gladys Edna Payne 7

it just says 'son'. likewise Gladys is 'daughter'

I beg yourt pardon,the image brackets them together as 'adopted'

Vera

Vera Report 18 Dec 2012 07:03

Thought I would show you this birth...although his middle names are different

Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Dodd Cecil Albert C Maidstone 2a 844


Births Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Payne Gladys Edna Faversham 2a 992





Regards Vera

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 18 Dec 2012 07:32

Hi Penny,

It really is confusing as I have searched everywhere to try and find any detail about him. A little aside to the 1911 census is that my grandmother, daughter of William and Jane, was working away at the time of the census so obviously is not listed there, but always talked about her younger brother and sister Sybil and John Court. I have also not been able to find records of their birth and wonder if Cecil and Gladys are actually Sybil and John. The plot thickens.

As I live in Australia and my grandmother arrived here in 1912 I am finding it tricky to do in depth research other than the internet.

Thanks for your time and interest.

Cheers Yvonne

Penny

Penny Report 18 Dec 2012 07:40

Yvonne, undo the green tick thinggy or people will think your query is resolved - its not!

Penny

Penny Report 18 Dec 2012 07:44

Who was your Grandmother? what was her name?

Penny

Penny Report 18 Dec 2012 07:48

Wonder if you are on the right track! How do you get to Jane & william? , its just that....

Births Sep 1913

Court Geoffrey B Curling Faversham 2a 2049

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Births Sep 1915 Court Reginald Curling Faversham 2a 1684

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Births Sep 1921 Court Margaret M Curling Eastry 2a 2136

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Births Sep 1924

Court Sybil M Curling Eastry 2a 1830


Harry Court and Charlotte nee Curling
I beieve William and Jane also had a Margaret, let me check.

Vera

Vera Report 18 Dec 2012 08:09

Private message from
From: Yvonne 7:34 AM




Thanks Vera,
I had also noted that birth but have only found that he is listed as being born in Cheriton in Kent and baptised in Hawkhurst in 1905 where the Court family lived. No other details have come to light at this stage.

If you can read my reply to Penny it adds a little more mystery to the story. If not let me know and I will send that info to you too.

Cheers Yvonne



Hi Yvonne,
Yes thanks have read your reply to Penny.Looks like Cecil and Edna became Sybil and John !!!! ????
Regarding places of birth stated on census etc., sometimes you have to take them with a pinch of salt.
It would be interesting to get the birth certificate of the Cecil born Maidstone, just to see if that would help you....unfortunately thats costs....and it might not be the right one anyway. Just a thought.

Regards Vera




That will most probably be my next option.

Thanks vera



Regards Vera

Mavis

Mavis Report 18 Dec 2012 16:31



I believe the Cecil Dodd born 1903 died 1 year old Dec Q 1904 Maidstone

Did Cecil Henry Dodd become Cecil Henry Court if so died in Maidstone
D of B 5th April 1902

No Dodd births in Elham -- district that covers Cheriton -- Jun Q 1902



Details of a Dodd family in Cheriton 1901


RG number: RG13
Piece: 851
Folio: 28
Page: 4
Reg. District: Elham
Sub District: Folkestone
Parish: Cheriton
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: All Souls
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 10, Enbrook Terrace, Cheriton
County: Kent
DODD, Alfred Head Married M 44 1857 House Painter
Sevenoaks, Kent
DODD, Harriett Wife Married F 49 1852
Camden Town, London
DODD, Edward Son M 15 1886 Butchers Boy
Lydham, Kent
DODD, Victor Son M 12 1889
Sandgate, Kent
DODD, Mabel Daughter Single F 20 1881 Scullery Maid Domestic
Westerham, Kent
DODD, Violet Daughter F 11 1890
Folkestone, Kent
DODD, Glady Daughter F 8 1893
Cherton, Kent
DODD, Ernist Son M 1 1900
Folkestone, Kent
WARWICK, Jane Mother-In-Law Widow F 79 1822
Oxford, Oxfordshire


wonder if 1 of the daughters may have had a child ?? 1911 mother Harriett say she has had 9 children 8 alive 1 died --have the names of her 9 chilren will work out who died.
the family are in Kensington 1911



part of Cheriton has an army camp ??

Mavis

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 18 Dec 2012 23:48

Hi Mavis,
Thanks for your reply. Sorry to not answer until now but it is early morning here in Western Australia and I have just picked up your message.

The Cecil Dodd I am searching for is noted on the 1911 census so with my gr grandparents so he is obviously still alive at that time. Another little piece of information that came to light is that on family search. org I found a matching name and baptism date for 1905 for him in Hawkhurst where my gr grandparents lived. I wonder if he was living with them then. On family search.org his mother has been listed as Mabel Dodd and no father listed, so perhaps she was a single mother and had to give him up.

I wonder if I will ever find out who he really was.
Thanks again,
Yvonne

jax

jax Report 19 Dec 2012 01:15

If you look at Mavis's post she says that maybe one of the daughters on that census was the mother....One of them was a Mabel

jax

jax Report 19 Dec 2012 01:28

1911 England Census
about Mabel Hubbock
Name: Mabel Hubbock
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Westerham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 29 St Marks Road, Notting Hill, Kensington W
Registration district: Kensington
Registration District Number: 2
Sub-registration district: Kensington Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 151
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hubbock 31
Mabel Hubbock 30
Alfred Hubbock 4
Florence Hubbock 2
Victor Hubbock 0

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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DODD Mabel Rosetta Paddington 1a 113
Hubbock Thomas Paddington 1a 113

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 19 Dec 2012 02:45

Thanks Jax, I hadn't noted that name, perhaps another lead for me.

Yvonne

Mavis

Mavis Report 19 Dec 2012 12:37



Cecil may well have had a double barrelled surname at some time ?

Marriage
Cecil H Dodd = Kathleen M Richardson Jun Q 1923 Bridge [Kent] 2a 2040
3 children

Death
Cecil Henry Court date of birth 5 Apr 1902 75y - Jun Q 1977 Maidstone [Kent]
16 1402

Kathleen M Court Dodd 58y Jun Q 1956 Bridge 5b 69


death of Mabel Rossetta [Dodd] / Hubbock Cecil's mother

94y Date of birth 6 Sep 1880 - June Q 1975 Maidstone 16 1439

did he meet her again - I wonder

Mavis



Yvonne

Yvonne Report 19 Dec 2012 15:04

Thanks for all that information Mavis. I shall now have some leads to follow up and see what turns up in this mystery.

Happy Christmas
Cheers Yvonne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Dec 2012 19:25

I know it doesn't answer what you're looking for but I did find a newspaper article:

The Dover Express of 16 April 1926 carried an article about a Cecil Henry Court of Upper Deal who was summoned for riding his BSA motorcycle at dangerous speeds on a public road. He put in a defence but was fined £1 (inc costs).

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 19 Dec 2012 22:43

Hi Marie Celeste,

That is absolutely brilliant as my gr grandparents were living in Deal at that time. Surely that must be him!!! What a little gem of information. Thank you so much.

Cheers Yvonne