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Ann Grout 1830 Great Easton Essex.

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Michael

Michael Report 19 Dec 2012 00:20

I have found that she married in 1854[Dunmow] Essex to either a Thomas Bass or a Henry Sycamore.
Can anyone tell me who was the correct spouse.
Regards.
Michael.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Dec 2012 00:30

How do you know that is the right marriage ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Dec 2012 00:35

I reckon that Thomas Bass married Betsy Tilbrook

1861 to rule them out

Name: Thomas Bass
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsey Bass
Gender: Male
Where born: Lt Canfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Great Dunmow
Town: Great Dunmow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Dunmow
Sub-registration district: Dunmow
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 1117
Folio: 36
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bass 31
Betsey Bass 30
Jame Bass 69

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Dec 2012 00:45

1861 census - ??????

SUCKAMORE, Henry Head Married M 32 1829 Agricultural Labourer Rivenhall, Essex VIEW
SUCKAMORE, Ann Wife Married F 39 1822 Stebbing, Essex VIEW
SUCKAMORE, William Son M 5 1856 Scholar Rivenhall, Essex VIEW
SUCKAMORE, James Son M 3 1858 Rivenhall, Essex VIEW
SUCKAMORE, Joseph Son M 0 (11M) 1861 Rivenhall, Essex VIEW

Piece: 1106
Folio: 95
Page: 24
Registration District: Witham
Civil Parish: Rivenhall
Municipal Borough:
Address: Braintree Scar, Rivenhall
County: Essex

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Dec 2012 00:50

Have you found her in 1851 to confirm her place of birth

Just because she was living there in 1841 does not mean she was born there

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Dec 2012 08:11

Burials (Find My Past, if them)

First name(s): Ann
Last name: SUCCAMORE
Date of burial 24 Mar 1909
Age at death: 85
Calculated year of birth: 1824
Place of burial Rivenhall
Dedication: St Mary & All Saints
County: Essex
Rivenhall St Mary & All Saints:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1640 - 1956
Data provider: Essex Society for Family History

First name(s): Henry
Last name: SUCCAMORE
Date of burial 18 Mar 1876
Age at death: 48
Calculated year of birth: 1828
Place of burial Rivenhall
Dedication: St Mary & All Saints
County: Essex


1901
SUCCAMORE, Ann Head Widow F 77 1824
Stebbing, Essex
SUCCAMORE, Joseph Son M 39 1862 Stockman On Farm
Rivenhall, Essex
Piece: 1724
Folio: 143
Page: 19
Registration District: Braintree
Civil Parish: Rivenhall
Municipal Borough:
Address: Grooms Yard, Rivenhall, Village
County: Essex

Chris :)

edits (hoping this isn't on a previous Grout 'Thread'!)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Dec 2012 10:38

This Ann born STEBBING but c1822 not 1830, which ties in with census 1861 age and birthplace for Ann Suckamore:

census 1851:

Address: Bocking End, Bocking County: Essex

BEUZEVILLE, Eliza Head Unmarried F 40 1811 School Mistress
London, Middlesex
BEUZEVILLE, Mary J Sister Unmarried F 32 1819 School Mistress
London, Middlesex
GROUT, Ann Servant Unmarried F 29 1822 House Servant Stebbing, Essex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
CHAPMAN, Elizabeth Servant F 12 1839 House Servant
Bocking, Essex
SEWELL, Abigail Inmate Unmarried F 16 1835 Scholar
Latchingdon, Essex
WILSON, Elizabeth S Inmate Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
Braintree, Essex
DAVEY, Sarah S Inmate Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar
Wethersfield, Essex
SEWELL, Ann Inmate F 13 1838 Scholar Latchingdon, Essex
ROBERTSON, Adele Inmate F 13 1838 Scholar Africa Mogadore British Subject
WILKINSON, Amelia C Inmate F 12 1839 Scholar London, Middlesex
SNOW, Eliza H Inmate F 12 1839 ScholarGreat Waltham, Essex
DAVEY, Emma Inmate F 11 1840 Scholar Wethersfield, Essex
WATERS, Ann Inmate F 10 1841 Scholar South Ockendon, Essex

Census 1841?

(age rounded down to nearest 5 yrs)

Address: Tolle's Burys, Stebbing County: Essex

GROUT, Thomas M 50 1791 Essex
GROUT, Mary F 45 1796 Essex
GROUT, John M 20 1821 Essex
GROUT, Ann F 15 1826 Essex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
GROUT, James M 15 1826 Essex
GROUT, Charles M 10 1831 Essex
GROUT, Sarah F 5 1836 Essex


Baptism:

name: Ann Grout
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Apr 1821
baptism/christening place: PROTESTANT MEETING MILL LANE-CONGREGATIONAL,STEBBING,ESSEX,ENGLAND
birth date: 01 Apr 1821
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Grout
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C06758-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0593814 (RG4 1522)

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Dec 2012 10:39

I think you're guessing, Michael

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Dec 2012 10:44

1841 England Census

Name: Ann Grout
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Essex, England
Civil parish: Great Easton
Hundred: Dunmow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Dunmow
Sub-registration district: Thaxted
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 328
Book: 11
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Clement Grout 50
Sarah Grout 40
Mary Grout 12
Ann Grout 9
Martha Grout 7
John Grant 55

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Dec 2012 10:48

Ann Grout living Great Easton in 1841 seems to come from another family ?


Census 1841:

Address: Hornes, Great Easton County: Essex

GROUT, Clement M 50 1791 Essex
GROUT, Sarah F 40 1801 Essex
GROUT, Mary F 12 1829 Essex
GROUT, Ann F 9 1832 Essex<<<<<<<<<
GROUT, Martha F 7 1834 Essex
GROUT, John M 55 1786 Essex

EDIT: Reggie beat me to it with this one!

Michael

Michael Report 19 Dec 2012 10:54

Thanks everyone.
I had her down as 1830 but of course dates were very inaccurate in those days!
Her parents were a John Grout[1676-1747] and an Ann[unknown] and came from Manuden.So it looks like Henry therefore was her spouse.
Would like to know who the unknown parent was,any ideas as i cannot trace her.
Once again,many thanks.
Regards.
Michael.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Dec 2012 11:08

The Ann Grout who married Henry came from Stebbing and is the child of Thomas and Mary going by her baptism and census 1841 (admittedly relationships aren't disclosed in 1841).

Doesn't look like the woman you were looking for, which is what I think we've been trying to tell you.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Dec 2012 11:41

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx

(Parishes on above, subscription needed)

Chris :)