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Samantha
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19 Dec 2012 16:27 |
Hi,
I cannot find my great great grandfather William Holmes who was born in "Hants, Eastney".
Born in approx 1873 according the 1901 cenus.
Can anyone help??
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2012 16:31 |
So where can't you find him?
And I'm sure you meant to say 'please'........didn't you?
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19 Dec 2012 16:32 |
1901 England Census
Name: William Holmes Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Gertrude Holmes Gender: Male Where born: Eastney, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Homerton County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 Piece: 230 Folio: 129 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Holmes 28 Gertrude Holmes 30 Florence G Holmes 3 William J Holmes 6 Months
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2012 16:33 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Holmes Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Age: 24 Spouse Name: Gertrude Moody Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Jun 1897 Parish: Hackney St John Borough: Hackney Father Name: John Holmes Spouse Father Name: William Joseph Moody Register Type: Parish Register
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2012 16:34 |
1881 England Census
Name: William Holmes Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Holmes Mother's Name: Anne Holmes Gender: Male Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 133 Pembroke St
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 35b Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 235 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age John Holmes 45 Anne Holmes 46 John Holmes 20 Richard Holmes 14 Katherine Holmes 12 Arthur Holmes 10 William Holmes 7 Walter Holmes 3 John Elston 28 Joseph Fuices 20 George Hoolson 26
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2012 16:34 |
1911 England Census
Name: William Holmes Age in 1911: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Patient Gender: Male Birth Place: Portsmouth Civil parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: St Marks Hospital, City Road E C Marital Status: Married Occupation: BRAKESMAN RAILWAY Registration district: Holborn Registration District Number: 14 Sub-registration district: St Luke ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Piece: 1271
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2012 16:35 |
1911 England Census
Name: Florence Holmes Age in 1911: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil parish: Poplar County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 43 Burdett St, Bromley E Occupation: SCHOOL Registration district: Poplar Registration District Number: 22 Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Piece: 1712 Household Members: Name Age Gertrude Holmes 42 Florence Holmes 13 William Holmes 10 Bertram Holmes 3 E Plain 28
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Samantha
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19 Dec 2012 17:27 |
Hi, Thanks so much.. This is where I was stuck.. Can you help me find him pre 1901 census.. This is all the info I have!
Thanks so much
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K
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19 Dec 2012 17:47 |
Hi Samantha
Reggie has found William in 1881 based on his father named in William's marriage. Eastney is part of Portmouth
Kx
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19 Dec 2012 17:56 |
Reggie has provided the 1881.
Here's the family In 1891 but no William.
John Holmes 55 - railway porter Ann Holmes 56 Katherine Holmes 22 Arthur Holmes 20
BOARDERS : William Seaks 36 James Obrian 24 Charles Birch 19 William Parker 18 His brother Walter was in the Royal Hospital School
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Samantha
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19 Dec 2012 18:07 |
Thanks everyone! You've all been fab!
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19 Dec 2012 18:20 |
Father John and his wife were born in Ireland
1881 - full detials
HOLMES, John Head Married M 45 1836 Porter G N Rly Kilkenny, Ireland VIEW HOLMES, Anne Wife Married F 46 1835 Limerick, Ireland VIEW HOLMES, John Son Single M 20 1861 Portsmouth, Hampshire VIEW HOLMES, Richard Son Single M 14 1867 Portsmouth, Hampshire VIEW HOLMES, Katherine Daughter Single F 12 1869 Portsmouth, Hampshire VIEW HOLMES, Arthur Son Single M 10 1871 Portsmouth, Hampshire VIEW HOLMES, William Son Single M 7 1874 Portsmouth, Hampshire VIEW HOLMES, Walter Son Single M 3 1878 Islington, Middlesex VIEW ELSTON, John Boarder Single M 28 1853 Rly Porter Newton St Cyres, Devon VIEW FUICES, Joseph Boarder Single M 20 1861 Rly Porter Lincoln, Middlesex VIEW HOOLSON, George Boarder Single M 26 1855 Rly Porter Spilsby, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 235
Folio: 23
Page: 39
Registration District: Islington
Civil Parish: Islington
Municipal Borough:
Address: 133, Pembroke St, Islington
County: London, Middlesex
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Samantha
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19 Dec 2012 19:36 |
How do I find out about John and Anne Holmes? Where do I find Irish records? I'd like to know her maiden name so I really need the marriage or census in Ireland... Could someone point me in the right direction please?
Thanks!
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MarieCeleste
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19 Dec 2012 19:40 |
Samantha - you really need to remove the answered tick, people will think you don't need any more help.
Go to your very first post and there should be a button that says something like "mark this as unanswered" - click on that.
The only Irish census available is the 1901 & 1911 and John & Anne were already in England by then.
You'd really need to order one of their children's birth certificates to get Anne's maiden name and we could then look at finding their marriage.
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MarieCeleste
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19 Dec 2012 19:48 |
According to a tree on Ancestry this would be John and Anne's marriage:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1855 Bartlett George Portsea 2b 546 Gunson Anne Portsea 2b 546 << Holmes John Portsea Island 2b 546 << Wheeler Emily Portsea Island 2b 546
I must emphasise that you have to take info on trees on Ancestry (or any site, basically) with a pinch of salt if they are not fully sourced and documented.
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MarieCeleste
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19 Dec 2012 19:58 |
This was the 1871 for the family already found (living in barracks with lots of other families which I haven't listed):
HOLMES, John Head M 35 1836 Ireland Gunner RM Artillery HOLMES, Ann Wife F 37 1834 Ireland HOLMES, James Son M 13 1858 Hampshire HOLMES, John Son M 10 1861 Hampshire HOLMES, Richard Son M 5 1866 Hampshire HOLMES, Katherine Daughter F 2 1869 Hampshire HOLMES, Arthur Son M 0 1871 Hampshire
Piece: 1148 Folio: 63 Page: 11 Registration District: Portsea Island Civil Parish: Portsea Municipal Borough: Portsmouth
Address: Royal Marine Artillery Barracks, Eastney, Portsea, Portsmouth County: Hampshire
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MarieCeleste
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19 Dec 2012 19:59 |
1861:
HOLMES, Ann Head Married F 26 1835 Wife Of Bunbardice R M Artillery Limerick, Ireland HOLMES, James S Son M 3 1858 Portsea, Hampshire HOLMES, John G Son M 0 (1M) 1861 Portsea, Hampshire
Piece: 644 Folio: 47 Page: 9 Registration District: Portsea Island Civil Parish: Portsea Municipal Borough: Portsmouth
Address: 30, Cumberland Road, Portsea, Portsmouth County: Hampshire
and this would be John:
HOLMES, John Married M 26 1835 Gunner Kilmanagh Kilkenny
Piece: 4438 Folio: 72 Page: 13 Registration District: Royal Navy At Sea and in Ports Abroad Vessel: Charybdis
The ship was positioned Lat 3.28S, Long 86.15, 779 miles from Trincomalee. (Not very good on maps but I think that puts them somewhere around the Bay of Bengal)
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MarieCeleste
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19 Dec 2012 20:48 |
Bit more on the marriage in 1855:
Ann Gunson, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "
groom's name: John Holmes bride's name: Ann Gunson marriage date: 18 Aug 1855 marriage place: Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England indexing project (batch) number: M06261-3 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 919748, 919749, 919750, 919751, 919752, 919753, 919754, 919755 reference number:
Citing this Record https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N24R-JZ1
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19 Dec 2012 22:35 |
I wonder if John remarried late in life. They are listed as married 15 years
You may find this interesting http://www.carosfamily.com/getperson.php?personID=I4117&tree=mytree
1911
Name: John Holmes Age in 1911: 75 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Kilmanagh Kilkenny, Ireland Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 4 Pemberton Terrace, Holloway N Marital Status: Married Occupation: NAVAL PENSIONER Registration district: Islington Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration district: Tufnell ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 786 Household Members: Name Age John Holmes 75 Sarah Holmes 65
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