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Sheila

Sheila Report 26 Dec 2012 14:16

This is my last attempt to find a family missing from the 1901 census. Would all the kind people who have offered to search for me please help now.

John Hill b.1831 Bickenhill Warwickshire

John Henry Hill b.1868 Hammerwich
Louisa Rose Hill b.1866 Birmingham
Emma Sharrard Hill b.1895 Hammerwich
Doris May Hill b. 1898 Hammerwich
Rose Esther Hill b. 1899 Hammerwich
Jack Thomas Hill b.1901

John Hill was the father of John Henry Hill and may be living with them
From family information they were living on Watling Street, Newtown Hammerwich.

Thank you

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Dec 2012 14:22

Just to confirm - is this them 1911?


1911 England Census

Name: Louisa Hill
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Civil parish: Ogley Hay
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Ogley Square, Brownhills, Walsall
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Registration district: Lichfield
Registration District Number: 367
Sub-registration district: Lichfield

John Hill 42
Louisa Hill 45
Emma Hill 15
Doris Hill 13
Rose Hill 11 Birth Place: Newtown, Brownhills, Staffordshire
Jack Hill 10
Robert Hill 6
William Locke 9

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 26 Dec 2012 14:25

AND the child William Lock is down as "son" ?

infact this entry on ancestry is a total mess and all names are Locke NOT HILL

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 26 Dec 2012 14:31

The originals dont match the computer entry .......BUT the william locke is the family next door! was prehaps thinking a name change had been done!!!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Dec 2012 14:34

The birthplaces don't match entirely for Shela's info - John is born Brownhills - so might not be them. Where is Hammerwich I wonder!!

The names are definitely Hill, what on earth do you mean KempinaThermalhat??

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Dec 2012 14:35

Well, the children should be Hills as the couple married 1895:

Marriages Jun 1895
Hill John Henry Lichfield 6b 728
LYNCH Louisa Rose Lichfield 6b 728

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 26 Dec 2012 14:41

The child william locke is in the wrong place .........................

BUT is entred as their son!

Stuart

Stuart Report 26 Dec 2012 14:45

An address search for 1901 on FMP does not have the family on Watling Street, Hammerwich

nor at Newtown, Hammerwich. There are 2 Hill families here William b 1870 and Joseph b 1857

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Dec 2012 15:21

Sheila, I can't find them anywhere on Ancestry.
Where did you find those birthplaces please? As it happens, I have found Hammerwich Staffs on Google Map! Fancy that.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Dec 2012 15:34

Stuart, have you addressed searched Ogley Square at all?
Jan

Stuart

Stuart Report 26 Dec 2012 15:41

No, but will get on to it - might be a while!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Dec 2012 15:55

Not seeing any Hills in Ogley Square on 1901.

Just posting FMP 1911 to show all birthplaces as stated:

HILL, John Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Miner Hewer Newtown Staff Brownhills
HILL, Louisa Wife Married 15 years F 45 1866 Warwickre Birmham
HILL, Emma Daughter Single F 15 1896 Staffre Newtown Brownhills
HILL, Doris Daughter F 13 1898 School Staffre Newtown Brownhills
HILL, Rose Daughter F 11 1900 School Staffre Newtown Brownhills
HILL, Jack Son M 10 1901 School Staffre Newtown Brownhills
HILL, Robert Son M 6 1905 School Staffre the Faull Brownhills

RG number: RG14 Piece: 16879
Reference: RG14PN16879 RG78PN1044 RD367 SD1 ED21 SN63
Registration District: Lichfield
Sub District: Lichfield
Enumeration District: 21
Parish: Ogley Hay

Address: 3 Ogley Square Brownhills Walsall County: Staffordshire

7 children born 5 still alive.

Robert's birthplace looks like "The Fault".

Stuart

Stuart Report 26 Dec 2012 15:56

Not Ogley Square (nor with a quick run through in Ogley Hay or the rest of Hammerwich ) Don't think I have the stomach for Brownhills!!

MC - ? The Fault could be The Fort - an address in Hammerwich - as is Newtown

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Dec 2012 16:04

Yes it could be Stuart, he definitely wrote it as the Fault but there could be phonetics at play!

Sheila

Sheila Report 26 Dec 2012 16:16

Jan, Stuart, Marie,

That is the family 1911.

Hammerwich has been given as place of birth on all previous census.

The area does get a little confusing. Hammerwich is a small village near the A5 Watling Street and Newtown was a collection of dwellings on Watling Street.The area is now Brownhills.

Joseph and William Hill are the brothers of John Henry.

The grand daughters of John Henry told me that the family lived on Watling Street.

My information came from my grandfather, he was not living at home in 1901

Sheila

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Dec 2012 18:38

Could this be Jack's birth?

Births Mar 1901
HILL Jack Lichfield 6b 479
(Covers Hammerwich)

Might be worth getting the cert to see what the address was.

Although the family may have lived on Watling Street it may have been between census or after 1911.