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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 14:49

Maura...Both James and Peter were listed as Rogers and on same page as the Margaret's....shown between McClusky and Hayward their numbers on the manifest were 51/52 line 2/3.

Have found an Albert Barnett aged 24 arriving NY on The Adriatic out of L'Pool and Cobh September 28 1885....dont know anymore about him but havent been able to find another AB.going way back....may

Maura

Maura Report 5 Jan 2013 12:20

Mary I found the baptism/births on rootsireland.ie

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 12:01

The 1880 arrival has no other info, other than she was from Ireland (no place given). Destination "United States". Doesn't appear to be any other Christy's on the page.

The 1883 arrival - she is the wife of Alex Christy - Gentleman. Also with them is an Emma, spinster. They all appear to be American. No further info.

Is the R after those two boys meant to stand for Rogers or is that literally what it says on the manifest? (Not finding them on Ancestry).

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Jan 2013 10:37

I have located 2 Margaret Christy's for about the time Mary says Margaret arrived in US
I cannot access Ancestry to clarify any details....

Margaret Christy 21 yrs "Servant" arrival NY 16 September 1880 "Nevada" out of L.Pool and Cobh.


Margaret Christy aged 31 yrs (Wife) arrival NY 16 May 1883 " Baltic" out of L'Pool and I am sure she (The Baltic) also picked up at Cobh.
I couldn't see anyone with Margaret (eg husband).

Regarding the Anchoria and Maggie Barnard /Mgt.Rogers ...there was also a James R aged 19 (farm Lab) and a Peter R.aged 11 from Co Tyrone going to Philadelphia dont know if they were related at all to Margaret R. They boarded Moville and are on top of Manifest page.

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 05:07

Maura: my tree is not accurate. I trying to update as I can. I have a lot of paper records to reconcile against. I'm not certain about Eugene Christy b 1871 and James b 1862 which you listed as children of Thomas and Margaret. where did their info come from?

MC: I do think Margaret C. Barnard Barnshaw was here 1881. I think you are on the right track and I need to map out her trips and residences and compare them to the family events that I'm aware of.

Maura

Maura Report 4 Jan 2013 19:37

Erin according to Mary, Margaret emigrated in 1881.



Mary I seen your tree on ancestry, you have Margaret Hamill born in Co. antrim the daughter of Joseph & Hester, I don't believe they are her parents as according to the 1901 census she was born in Tyrone. There a birth for a Thomas James Christy 1839 in Tyrone father Thomas on rootsireland

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 19:16

Yes of course (too many Margarets!)

Maura

Maura Report 4 Jan 2013 18:53

No her mother died in 1908, she left her daughter with her mother. But maybe her 1st husband had died and thats why she came home.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 18:49

It may have been rare, but hadn't her mother died that year? Perhaps she wanted to go back to see the family?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 4 Jan 2013 18:26

Maura....I put the one for Maggie on the thread earlier but had her out of Glasgow...(Didnt read the Manifest properly..!!) Certainly didnt see the Margaret Rodgers though ..but then I wasnt looking for her..!!

Given she was going to Philadelphia as was Brid. (1908) there may be a connection...
I wonder if Margaret was in the US prior to this date...Mary seems to think so but to me its odd that she returned home ...it was a very rare occurence to say the least...

Maura

Maura Report 4 Jan 2013 16:38

There a Maggie Rogers beside Maggie Barnard name born co Tyrone

Maura

Maura Report 4 Jan 2013 16:27

This is the mother Margaret returning to the states, born Tyrone,

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maggie Barnard Name: Maggie Barnard
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1892
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Moville
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Anchoria
Search Ship Database: Search the Anchoria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 22:50

I don't think we have diverted too far, there's the hope that the aunt travelling in 1908 is a connection to the first husband .....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 22:33

Perserverance !!!
Got them...ploughed through what appears to be ??? page 123

Patrick Christy Married ..occup. Captain (Dont know what of...!!!)
James Joseph son b Coalisland..nok Mother 143 Amsterdam Ave NY.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 22:13

I cant believe we have diverted so far from the original quest of trying to find Margaret Christy's first husband....!!

Have made some progress with Patrick and James Joseph (Cymric Dec1901 out of L'Pool) the Ellis Island records have the Manifest for the Breslau out of Bremin same date mixed with the Cymric (White Star line) so it was by sheer chance I found some of the Passenger Manifest in the mix...no idea how to manage getting the correct page for Pat and James...case of ploughing through the whole lot...I live in hope...


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 19:13

Using a ruler and a sharp pencil I've now convinced myself that Mary Giles is indeed the travelling aunt. (Not an arcane ritual, I printed off the manifest and aligned the dotted lines).

I wish I hadn't!

On arrival in 1908 Mary Giles is listed as a widow - she wasn't. Her husband James Buchanan Giles didn't die until 1934, having married a Julia H Zellner in 1902. There's a tree on ancestry has loads about him but all it has for Mary is Mary Whittle Stewart.

From the 1900 census Mary had been in US since 1868 and her parents were Scottish. Her daughter Mabel was born in Missouri in December 1886 and her father was Canadian. Mary had been married to "Buck" for 5 years.

Can't find any records to confirm Mary's maiden name:

Marriage to or divorce from James Buchanan Giles
Birth record for daughter Mabel
There was no 1890 census so can't find who Mary and Mabel were with.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 18:18

MC...In a nut shell yes...but I am not convinced that its them as the notation is definately on line 2 ...but it does have a scribble crossed out which looks like "mothers aunt" then niece written above ..plus page and line ref....anyway I managed to decifer Brids.address in Philadelphia 60 N.2 St.!!

Maybe I will try to find the Patrick and James Joseph I couldnt find yesterday..!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jan 2013 18:06

Turn me back for a minute and I've lost track!

Are we now saying the elusive auntie is Mary Giles? Who was previously a Stewart going by the 1900.

EGB - what do you mean you don't like their names! Makes a change!

Mary

Mary Report 3 Jan 2013 17:57

EGB: did I add wrong? so much info coming at me now and no time to carefully consider it. off to work again. hopefully I have time on Sunday to rebuild this part of my tree.

b 1864 came to us in 1881 would make her 17 yrs old. I census information is correct.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 17:32

Catherine...This is one big adventure...look on the positive side..if ever anyone wants to know about Margaret Storey...well...what can one say..the info is already found. ...must admit I am now wondering why she was back here..(not going down that road !!)

Am not searching out The Giles' (Dont like their names..!!!)

Mary..How do you know Margaret was in her teens when she first came out....??