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Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 21:50

Margret Barnshaw, "United States Census, 1940"

name: Margret Barnshaw
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Assembly District 6, Bronx, New York City, Bronx, New York, United States
gender: Female
age: 75
marital status: Widowed
race (original):
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original):
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: Ireland
estimated birth year: 1865
residence in 1935: Same House
enumeration district number: 3-738
family number: 190
sheet number and letter: 12A
line number: 21
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 2479
digital folder number: 005458146
image number: 00998
Household Gender Age Birthplace
brother Edwin Gugger M 45 New York
head Margret Barnshaw F 75 Ireland
son James Barnshaw M 42 New York
daughter Mable Barnshaw F 40 New York
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQBR-GS1 : accessed 01 Jan 2013), Margret Barnshaw, Assembly District 6, Bronx, New York City, Bronx, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 3-738, sheet 12A, family 190, NARA digital publication T627, roll 2479.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 21:48

Margaret Barnshaw in household of James Barnshaw, "New York, State Census, 1905"

name: Margaret Barnshaw
residence: Manhattan, New York, New York
age: 40
estimated birth year: 1865
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household: Wife
race: W
gender:
family number: 501
page number: 29
line number: 29
film number: 1433089
digital folder number: 4518310
image number: 00014
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head James Barnshaw M 39y England
wife Margaret Barnshaw F 40y Ireland
daughter Helen Barnshaw F 12y United States
son Thomas Barnshaw M 10y United States
son James Barnshaw M 7y United States
daughter Mabel Barnshaw F 6y United States
head John Donohue M 35y United States
wife Jennie Donohue F 34y United States
son Mortimer Donohue M 8y United States
niece Elizabeth Grady F 8y United States
head James Ganley M 28y United States
wife Annie Ganley F 25y United States
son James Ganley M 0y United States
head Oxcel Peterson M 51y Sweden
wife Anna Peterson F 53y Sweden
son Oxcel Peterson M 24y Sweden
daughter Hilda E Peterson F 20y United States
head Edward Matthews M 34y United States
mother Bridget Matthews F 68y Ireland
sister Mary Strang F 36y United States
Citing this Record

"New York, State Census, 1905," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SPXV-D75 : accessed 01 Jan 2013), Margaret Barnshaw in household of James Barnshaw, Manhattan, A.D. 13, E.D. 14, New York, New York.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 20:05

So this was James' first marriage:

Surname Given Name Month Day Year County Certificate Soundex
Barnshaw James Mar 2 1892 Kings 893 B652
Burgedohl Emma Mar 2 1892 Kings 893 B623

http://www.italiangen.org

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Jan 2013 19:56

MC...This is the marriage.....

groom's name: James Barnshan
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Margaret Christee Barnard
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 12 Nov 1896
marriage place: Manhattan, New York, New York
groom's father's name: Thomas
groom's mother's name: Alice Sarlington
bride's father's name: Thomas
bride's mother's name: Margaret Harnnell


its getting confusing to say least as 1900 census gives her year of immigration abt 1881...then subsequent ones give 1900...(Barnshaw...surname

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 19:54

I think it is her, the baptism posted above is November 1864 and that is the year and month given on the original image:

1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Margaret Barnshaw
Age: 35
Birth Date: Nov 1864
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: James Barnshaw
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Occupation:

Household Members:
Name Age
James Barnshaw 34
Margaret Barnshaw 35
Ellen Barnshaw 7
Thomas Barnshaw 6
James Barnshaw 2
Mable Barnshaw 1

The two older children must be James from his first marriage.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 19:40

Don't know if these are the right people but posting anyhow:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Margaret Barnshaw
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Ireland
Race: White
Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
Marital Status: Widowed
Immigration Year: 1900 <<
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value: $60 per month
Age at first marriage: 30 ??
Parents' birthplace: Ireland

Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Barnshaw 64
Mable C Barnshaw 28 - clerk, born NY
Thomas Barnshaw 11 - born NY

Street address 3358 Wilson Avenue

There's something not right - she would have been 53 when Thomas was born but he's listed as son.

ADDED: I've traced this lady on all census from 1900 to 1940 and on all of them except this her immigration year is 1881/1882.

Her husband was a James Barnshaw, born England.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 19:27

Mary - can you tell us the first name of Maggie's second husband? Will help us work back.

What record do you have of Margaret and Mabel travelling together? The only one I've managed to find so far is the one of young Margaret travelling on her own to see her mother who was already there.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 19:17

pm from Mary

"don't know about WH barnard
You have to apply for naturalization to become a citizen.

Margaret Christy Barnard Barnshaw b 1864 was my g-aunt
young Margaret travelling with her may be her dtr Mabel (poss Mabel was a family name for her and not her birth name)
1908 was the year Aunt Margaret's mother died in Tyrone
the NYC address is theirs for sure.

Thank you so much for these details! "

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Jan 2013 19:08

Mary...Dont think the Barnard's posted by Catherine (13.42) was your family..but there was coincidentally a Maggie Barnard 27yrs (Co.Tyrone) sailed out from Glasgow on the Anchoria arriving NY 2 Dec 1892....states she was US Citizen...no other details re NOK/marital status but occup.given as Housewife....

Maura

Maura Report 1 Jan 2013 16:54

Graveyard Name: Killyman RC
Parish: Killyman
Town/Townland: Cavan
County: Tyrone
Surname: CHRISTY
Inscription: Erected by John Christy, Tamnamore in memory of his father Thomas Christy, died 16th July 1897. His mother Margaret died 8th April 1908. His brother Owen died 19th Feb. 1886. His brother James died in USA 8th Nov. 1890. His sister May died in USA 22nd Jan. 1896 his brother Patrick died in USA 11th May 1906. His brother Thomas died 3rd April 1936. Also the above John Christy died 30th April 1943 aged 85 years.

Maura

Maura Report 1 Jan 2013 16:28

Margaret Barnett born Dungannon 1891, parents Alfred Barnett & Margaret Christy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2013 15:04

The W H Barnard and his wife arriving in New York in 1892 were USA citizens.

If Margaret b1864 had married an American would she be deemed a US citizen?

Young Margaret arriving in 1908 states her mother is Margt Barnshaw of 501 West 41 Street, New York.


Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 14:53

You say her second marriage took place in N.Y. but what date would that be?
If she was widowed, then there should be death record for her husband.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 14:35

I wonder if this is Margaret arrival in America:-


First Name: Mrs.
Last Name: Barnard
Ethnicity: US Citizen
Last Place of Residence: Liverpool
Date of Arrival: Jun 15, 1892
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Majestic (1890)
Port of Departure: Liverpool & Queenstown
Manifest Line Number: 0069

..................arrival 1892 aged 27yrs, would make date of birth abt. 1865. Also, birth of Margaret (daughter) is noted as 1891 so that would also fit.

Looking at the original copy of the passenger list, she is travelling with her W.H.Barnard (Gent) aged 30yrs. and she is noted as his wife.

First Name: W. H.
Last Name: Barnard
Ethnicity: US Citizen
Last Place of Residence: Liverpool
Date of Arrival: Jun 15, 1892
Age at Arrival: 30y Gender: M Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Majestic (1890)
Port of Departure: Liverpool & Queenstown
Manifest Line Number: 0068

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 13:44

Here it is:-

Margaret Bernard, "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958"

name: Margaret Bernard
registration district: Dungannon
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Jul - Sep 1891
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101063
volume number: 1
page number: 522
digital folder number: 4193977
image number: 00504
Citing this Record

"Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBDB-M6J : accessed 01 Jan 2013), Margaret Bernard, Jul - Sep 1891; citing vol. 1, p. 522, General Registry, Custom House, Dublin, Ireland; FHL microfilm 101063.

Maybe a baptism record will give you father's name so you don't have to buy the birth certificate, just in case it isn't the daughter of Margaret Christy.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Jan 2013 13:42

This looks to be the Margaret Barnard who emigrated in 1908:-

Margaret Barnard in household of Edwin Sheather, "United States Census, 1910"

name: Margaret Barnard
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household:
residence: North Hempstead, Nassau, New York
marital status: Single
race : White
gender: Female
immigration year: 1908
father's birthplace: Ireland
mother's birthplace: Ireland
family number: 395
page number: 19
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Edwin Sheather M 53y New York
wife Agnes Sheather F 45y New York
son Samuel Sheather M 23y New York
dau Edna Sheather F 19y Connecticut
son John Sheather M 18y Connecticut
dau Beatrice Sheather F 15y New York
Eliza Reynolds F 29y Ireland
xxxxx Margaret Barnard F 19y Ireland xxxxx
Stanley Seimarko M 32y Russia
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M53C-B9B : accessed 01 Jan 2013), Margaret Barnard in household of Edwin Sheather, North Hempstead, Nassau, New York; citing sheet 19A, family 395, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1375008.

...............................What we need is her birth record to find out her father's name.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Jan 2013 10:49

Mary...Have you seen this....

Title : Date of Death : 19 April 1908
Surname : Christy Date of Grant : 24 June 1909
Forename : Margaret Reseal Date :
Registry : Armagh Effects : Effects £48 5s. 0d.
No Image

Full Abstract :
Administration of the Estate of Margaret Christy late of Tamnamore County Tyrone Farmer who died 19 April 1908 granted at Armagh to John Christy

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Jan 2013 09:28

Mary...A quick browse through some records show Margaret Christy Barnard's daughter Margaret Barnard aged 17 travelled out to the US arriving 29 Dec,1908..she apparently travelled with her aunt...(havent found out who that was yet) and was going to her mother in NY..next of kin in Ireland was uncle John Christie..Tanamore Moy (small village in Killyman Civil Parish Dungannon Co Tyrone).
Margaret Barnard was stated as being born in the Co Tyrone...
This info may help work out an approx. date of marriage for Margaret Christy....

This would appear to be Margaret with her g.mother 1901

Residents of a house 32 in Tamlaghtmore (Drumaspil, Tyrone)


Christy Margaret 60 Female Head of Family R Catholic Co Tyrone Farmer Cannot read - Widow -
Christy Thomas 30 Male Son R Catholic Co Tyrone Farmers Son Read and write - Not Married -
Barnett Margaret 10 Female Grand Daughter R Catholic **b Co Tyrone

Next door is Anne Christy aged 80..single. so would imagine she was a sister to Thomas Christy (RIP)

1911...I think this may be the NOK (Ire) Margaret lists on Ships Manifest 1908

Residents of a house 24 in Tamlaghtmore (Drumaspil, Tyrone)

Christy John 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Single - - - -
McAlavey Teresa 35 Female Sister Roman Catholic Co Tyrone House Keeper Read and write - Married - 11 6 5
McAlavey Margaret 8 Female Niece Roman Catholic Scotland
McAlavey James 6 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Scotland
McAlavey Thomas 5 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Scotland
McAlavey Teresa 3 Female Niece Roman Catholic Scotland - -
McAlavey Patrick Joseph 1 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Co Tyrone - - - - - - - -
Christy John 60 Male Cousin Roman Catholic Co Tyrone Farm Servant Read and write - Single - - - -
ONeill Patrick 70 Male Servant Roman Catholic




Mary

Mary Report 1 Jan 2013 01:35

Catherine, Thanks for all the infor. I have all but the birth info for Margaret Hamill, that is new info
What I'm looking for is information on my g-aunt's first marriage which I believe took place before she left Ireland. Her NYC marriage cert to husband #2 says she was a widow and her name is listed as Margaret Barnard not Margaret Christy. Her parents on that cert are Margaret Hamill and Thos Christy.
So it is search of husband #1 for Margaret Christy, birth date: 17 Nov 1864
and if I can believe the marriage cert, his surname was Barnard.

It's been awhile since I've searched the Irish records. I stopped because I kept paying for wrong records because I didn't have enough info to pick the more likely choices.

Co. antrim is a possiblity. Thank you so much for your work on this.

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 Dec 2012 09:52

You could try this site:-

http://tyrone.rootsireland.ie/search.php

You have to buy credits to view but you do get 10 free credits when you sign up to start you off.