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Albert Yates---marriage?

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IanPJS

IanPJS Report 5 Jan 2013 06:24


Hi,

I am trying to find the marriage of Albert b. 2nd Jan 1881, Accrington, Lancs. It appears he married Florence Heap bpt. 13th Aug 1890 at St Stephens, Burnley, Lancs. Her parents were Benjamin and Elizabeth Heap.

On the 1901 census Florence is with her widowed father at 32 Rawlinson Street, Burnley, Lancs.

The 1911 census has Albert and Florence (married 1 year) and their daughter Lilian (5months) living in Aylesbury, Bucks.

Lilian was bpt. 9th November 1910 at St Stephen's, Burnley, parents Albert and Florence of 32 Rawlinson Street, Burnley.

Help would be appreciated, thanks,

Ian

Penny

Penny Report 5 Jan 2013 06:38

Not sure what you mean. Are you wanting the reference to buy the cert for the marriage you aappear to have all the details it will contain.

* in 1911 florence is recorded as 20 years old- married 1 year

IanPJS

IanPJS Report 5 Jan 2013 06:48

Hi Penny,

I am wanting the reference to obtain the certificate to confirm my findings are correct.

Ian

K

K Report 5 Jan 2013 06:54

I can't see a marriage at the moment but the child's birth cert would confirm the mother's maiden name

Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
YATES Lilian Burnley 8e 175

IanPJS

IanPJS Report 5 Jan 2013 07:03


I agree K but the baptism record seems to confirm it was Heap as the Godparents listed were Albert Heap, Lilian Knowles and F Yates. Albert Yates had a sister called Florence.

I'll look and see if there was a Albert Heap in Florence Heap's family.

Ian

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Jan 2013 08:17



can't see a marriage - looks as though he went to America

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943

Name: Albert Yates
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1911
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Cymric
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: H Yates
Last Residence: United States of America
Birthplace: Burnley, England


UK relative - Mrs Yates, 32 Rawlinson Street, Burnley




returning to see wife and child - (there's a photograph of him)

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925

Age: 39
Father Name: Henry H Yates
Father's Birth Location: England
Father's Residence: Waltham, Massachusetts




UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Albert Yates
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 39
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Winifredian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Winifredian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Leyland Line
Official Number: 110584





Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jan 2013 09:27


name: Albert Yates

event: Marriage
event date: 11 Nov 1909
event place: Boston, , Massachusetts
gender: Male
age: 29
:
birth date: 1880
birthplace: Accrington, , England

marriage registration place: Waltham, , Massachusetts
estimated birth year: 1880
father: Henry Yates
:
mother: Alice Johnson

spouse: Florrie Heap
:
spouse's father: Benjamin Heap

spouse's mother: Elizabeth Schofield

patchem

patchem Report 5 Jan 2013 10:22

Totally unrelated Florence, as lack of information about her, and claims all on the list are foreign, but unlikely?
Florence Heap
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 2 Jan 1908
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ports of Voyage: Boston
Ship Name: Saxonia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Saxonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 1106485

Barry

Barry Report 5 Jan 2013 12:12

There is tree on Ancestry which gives Albert's death as Jan 25 1974 in Sanford York Maine
There is also a photograph of a headstone with his wife Eva Robinson 1893-1984
There is ref to a 1940 US census and a WW1 1917/18 US Draft Registration Card, but my subscription does not cover access to them
You should be able to view the tree on this free lInk

https://www.mundia.com/gb

Perhaps Florence died and Eva is his second wife ??

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 13:59

1917/8 for Albert names nearest relative florence yates of burnley.

Eva Robinson born 14/1/1893 to Albert and hannah Robinson.
They arrived in 1922 on the Winifredian.
Albert robinson age 56 born bradford
Hannah 55 bradford
Eva 29
Edna M 11

I can't see a marriage for Eva and Albert.
1930 they had son Donald age 3.

Maryb.

Barry

Barry Report 5 Jan 2013 14:13

Marriage of Eva's parents ?

Albert Robinson to Hannah Hargreaves Q2 1888 Bradford ref 9b 113

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2013 14:17

Victor any relation??? he died age 1 month


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
YATES Lilian Burnley West Preston HEAP BUW/39/28

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1916
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

Burial: 16 Dec 1916 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Victor Yates -
Age: 1mnth
Abode: 31 Russell Street
Grave: A8143

Baptisms: 9 Nov 1910 St Stephen, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Lilian Yates - Child of Albert Yates & Florence
Abode: 32 Rawlinson St.
Occupation: Mechanic
Baptised by: James Cranbrook
Register: Baptisms 1908 - 1915, Page 37, Entry 295
Source: Original Register
YATES Victor Burnley East Preston HEAP BUE/61/10

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2013 14:26

Baptisms: 30 Jan 1889 St Stephen, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Mary Elizabeth Heap - Child of Benjamin Heap & Elizabeth
Abode: 12 Turf Street
Occupation: Stone Mason
Baptised by: A. E. Tovey
Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1891, Page 148, Entry 1184
Source: LDS Film 1849648

Baptisms: 13 Aug 1890 St Stephen, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Florence Heap - Child of Benjamin Heap & Elizabeth
Abode: 25 Swainbank Street
Occupation: Stone Mason
Baptised by: A. E. Tovey
Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1891, Page 181, Entry 1445
Source: LDS Film 1849648

Baptisms: 25 May 1892 St Stephen, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Richard Heap - Child of Benjamin Heap & Elizabeth
Abode: 25 Swainbank Street
Occupation: Stonemason
Baptised by: A. E. Tovey
Register: Baptisms 1891 - 1896, Page 21, Entry 1766
Source: LDS Film 1849648

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2013 14:27

Marriage: 15 Oct 1888 St Paul, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Benjamin Heap - (X), 32 years Stone Mason Bachelor of Worsthorne
Elizabeth Schofield - (X), 22 years Spinster of 19 Springfield Road
Groom's Father: Richard Heap, Quarryman
Bride's Father: John Schofield, Carter
Witness: Jeremiah Cherry, (X); Jane Cherry, (X)
Married by Banns by: William Elton, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1888 - 1896, Page 6, Entry 11
Source: LDS Film 1517689

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 14:31

Florence heap arrived 11/11/1909 on the Ivernia friends name Albert Yates.

1910 Albert yates on census with parents in waltham he is now married.

2/7/1921 Passport application in Us, Florence Yates wife of Albert Yates.
Gives her birth as 10/6/1889/90.
death Florence Yates born 10/6/1890 died in Burnley 1975

Maryb.

Barry

Barry Report 5 Jan 2013 14:39

Mary
Re - death of Florence in 1975
As you know, divorce was rare in those days so perhaps Albert left Florence and set up home with Eva,which is why no marriage can be found for them and why unusually' Eva's birth surname is on the headstone
Just a thought !

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2013 14:49

Flo's fathers probate record

Benjamin Heap of 32 Rawlinson St Burnley died 5 July 1910 administration to Mary Elizabeth Heap spinster

IanPJS

IanPJS Report 6 Jan 2013 05:34


Hi everyone who has given me information re Albert and his family.

I apologise for not answering earlier but my 91 year old father-in-law was rushed into hospital yesterday morning so had to look after the living and abandon the dead for a while.

Thank you all very much for your information which is fantastic, I had a sneaking feeling he must have married in America as I couldn't find anything in the UK.

The additional information and the passenger records is also very much appreciated.

Looks like father-in-law is going to be OK once the hospital have got his Warfarin levels sorted out and he should be allowed home soon.

Thanks again everyone,

Ian