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Census Check Please

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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 12:57

For these fellas.

name: Thomas Huntsworth
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Sep 1803
baptism/christening place: SOMERSHALL HERBERT,DERBY,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Huntsworth
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C05896-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428939, 498125

name: Charles Huntsworth
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Feb 1805
baptism/christening place: Parish Church of Sudbury, Derbyshire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Huntsworth
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Huntsworth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C03688-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1785840
reference number: it 21

Andrew

Andrew Report 6 Jan 2013 13:02

??

ngland & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Thomas Huntsworth
Name: Thomas Huntsworth
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Margaret Oulsnam
Marriage Date: 21 May 1822
Marriage Place: Caverswall, Staffordshire, England



Andy

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 13:11

We're not likely to find them together on a census, so how have you got back to them? If through their descendants or marriages could you give more details please.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 13:22

Looking into the possibility that these 2 are half brothers to my 3xGreat-Grandfather, Richard Huntsworth born c1811 in Caverswall, Staffordshire (son of John Huntsworth and Mary Buxton).

Think John may have married 3 times as Thomas and Charles's mother, Elizabeth appears to die in August 1805. This is something I'm still looking into and would just like to know where the boys ended up.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 13:23

I've looked on FMP and Ancestry and I'm not seeing either in 1841 or 1851.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Jan 2013 13:24

Problem with baptism records is you have no idea if they were a baby, young child or adult when baptised

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 13:27

Charles Huntsworth
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Huntsworth
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Hanley (Staffordshire)

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral And Collegiate Church
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1q
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 2229
Folio: 478
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Huntsworth 47 ,,Butter maker
Mary Huntsworth 41 << born Prestbury
Elizabeth Huntsworth 15 << Manchester
Henry Huntsworth 14 << Macclesfied
Priscilla Huntsworth 13 <<Manchester
Charles Huntsworth 7 << Macclesfield
Michael Kavngh 28
James Heath 35
John Cook 66
John Pattison 40
Susan Pattison 36
Elizabeth Ankle 19

Wrong birth place, but if the family moved to Staffordshire it could be a possibility?

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 14:02

Hmmn. Elizabeth Huntstworth born c1836 certainly peaks my interest. Looking at my notes, I have a young girl by that name/born about the same time in Manchester, Lancashire, living with a MARTHA HUNTSWORTH & liste as her neice.

Martha was baptise 1809 in Hanley, Staffs & never marries. Just can't recall which Census Elizabeth is living with her & working as a Silk Weaver.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 14:03

?1841 for Charles

1841 England Census

1841 UK Census Collection


View Image
NAME:
Chas Huntsworth
BIRTH:
abt 1805
RESIDENCE:
township, city, Cheshire, England

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 14:14

Is a house of correction a gaol? That 1841

HUNTSWORTH, Chas M 36 1805

Piece: 93 Book/Folio: 12/5 Page: 7
Registration District: Altrincham
Civil Parish: Nether Knutsford

Address: House Of Correction, Nether Knutsford, Nether Knutsford County: Cheshire

He wasn't born in county, was a prisoner. Occupation bone cutter

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 14:59

?1841 for Elizabeth born c1836

1841 England Census

1841 UK Census Collection


View Image
NAME:
Elizabeth Huntsworth
BIRTH:
abt 1835
RESIDENCE:
township, city, Cheshire, England

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 15:15

I've just put birth places on the 1851 census, the family seem to move between Manchester and Macclesfield, and I'm pretty sure I saw Martha in Macclesfield. Wonder if there is a connection.

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 15:38

Joy, I think this is the census you refer to:

Elizabeth Huntsworth
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Prestbury
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 132
Book: 16
Folio: 13
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Huntsworth 30
Martha Huntsworth 25
Mary Huntsworth 25
Ann Huntsworth 65
Elizabeth Huntsworth 15
Elizabeth Huntsworth 6 <<<<<<<<<<
Lowersa Huntsworth 4

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 15:42

There must be 2 Elizabeth Huntsworth's around, we have 1 with father Charles in 1851, this one is with her aunt - so the one you referred to earlier. Or, if she hadn't actually been home on the night of the census they may have included her in error???

Elizabeth Huntsworth
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Niece
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Macclesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Macclesfield
Town: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 2160
Folio: 172
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Huntsworth 41
Mary Huntsworth 38
Ann Huntsworth 76
Elizabeth Huntsworth 15 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Louisa Huntsworth 10
Mary Foden 21

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 15:58

That's the one Flip, Richard is my 3xGreat-Grandfather, Martha & Mary are his sisters (neither ever marries), Ann is his step-mother, Lowersa (should be 'Louisa') is Mary's illegitimate daughter. So it looks like Elizabeth (aged 6) is living with her Uncle. Wonder where Henry and Priscilla are in 1841?

From looking at BMD records and IGI it appears Charles marries 3 times.

1st -
name: Charles Huntsworth
event: Marriage
event date: 21 May 1833
event place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age:
marital status:
father:
mother:
spouse: Maria Maston
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father:
spouse's mother:
film number: 1751958
digital folder number: 4011912
image number: 488

?Maria's Death

Deaths Mar 1838 (>99%)
Huntsworth Maria Manchester 20 466
Huntsworth Maria Manchester 20 445

2nd Marriage
groom's name: Charles Huntsworth
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catharine Wright
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 23 Sep 1844
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M09789-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438203, 438204, 438205, 438206, 438207
reference number:

?Catherine's Death
Deaths Mar 1849 (>99%)
Huntsworth Catherine Manchester 20 595

3rd Marriage


groom's name: Charles Huntsworth
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Mary Timmins
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 01 Jan 1850
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M09789-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438208, 438209, 438210, 438211, 438212
reference number:

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 16:33

No sign of Henry or Priscilla in 1841 - so really badly transcribed or under a different name?

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 6 Jan 2013 17:08

They must be Flip. I've had a few mistranscriptions of the surname. Kuntsworth/Hemsworth/Hunsworth and Unsworth amongst other. And here was me thinking this rare surname was going to be a doddle to researth. :-|

I can see Priscilla, apparently alive and well in 1861 Census, but can't find anything for her post then. :-|