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Henry Alfred or Alfred Henry Griffiths

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 16:58

Clive, apart from Alfred's marriage cert, what other certificates have you obtained to break down this brick wall?

You believe his mother to be Eliza Fear - have you obtained any birth certificates for his younger siblings to confirm this?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 16:53

Just posting the 1911 for Charles and Eliza:

GRIFFITHS, Charles Head Married M 54 1857 Cooper Cook Work Gloster Lechlade
GRIFFITHS, Eliza Wife Married 34 years F 60 1851 Bristol

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14465
Reference: RG14PN14465 RG78PN875 RD311 SD2 ED7 SN93
Registration District: Frome
Sub District: Frome
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Frome

Address: 3 New Buildings Frome County: Somersetshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 16:50

Clive - I think that must be your tree on ancestry that I've come across. On it you have Charles Griffiths and Eliza Fear as having married 1877 - do you have that as a fact or is it an estimate?

If it's a fact, then Alfred Henry's birth most likely wouldn't be registered as Griffiths, it would be whatever his mother was called at the time.

That's if it was registered at all. Although civil registration came into effect 1837 there was no compulsion on parents to register births until around 1874 although there are many who still slipped through the net.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 16:45

I think this is the correct 1911 to work from:

GRIFFITHS, Alfred Head Married 5 years M 37 1874 Seaman Bristol
GRIFFITHS, Gertrude Wife Married F 30 1881 London
GRIFFITHS, Gertrude Daughter F 3 1908 London
GRIFFITHS, Sarah Daughter F 1 1910 London

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1697
Reference: RG14PN1697 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED20 SN192
Registration District: Poplar
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Poplar Borough

Address: 30 Bloomsbury ST County: London

No other children born.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Jan 2013 16:43

??????

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Henry A Griffiths
Name: Henry A Griffiths
Birth Date: abt 1872
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Bathavon
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 599

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Jan 2013 16:40

Is this him please?

1911 England Census
about Henry Samuel Griffiths
Name: Henry Samuel Griffiths
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Shepton, Somerset
Civil parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 62 Repton Road, Brislington, Bristol
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Foreman Of Motor Garage
Registration district: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration district: Knowle
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 134
Piece: 14945
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Samuel Griffiths 38
Emma Jane Griffiths 40
Reginald Victor Griffiths 10
Iris Kathleen Griffiths 8/12


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 16:40

Hello Clive, have you found Charles and Eliza's marriage?

Could Henry Alfred have been born before it?

What birthplace is given for him on census records?

Clive

Clive Report 6 Jan 2013 16:35

Can anyone help me please, I've been researching my family history for many years but when it comes to my grandfather on my fathers side I always seem to come up against a brick wall, his name is Henry Alfred or Alfred Henry Griffiths born around 1872 possibly in Somerset although my father always said it was Neath in Wales, he was married to Gertrude Ellen Amy Edwards 25 March 1906 at st Gabriel s church in West Ham London, he died in Keynsham Somerset 3 June 1937 and is buried in Frome Somerset, we believe his mother to be Eliza Fear born around 1849 and that she may have been previously married to a "Wright" before she married Charles Griffiths my great grandfather, Eliza had 8 children in total;
Henry
William C
Charles
Gilbert
Egbert
Ralph
Flora
Bessie Brindle F
the last 6 were born in Shepton Mallet William was born in Bristol whereas Henry appears not to have been born at all.
if anyone can help me trace Henry's birth i would be eternally grateful.

Clive