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I'm stuck. Stella Liles 1912

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Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 21:52

right I have
Stella M Liles . born 1912 Edmonton Middlesex.

Married George E Jeffrey 1938 Surrey.

She had a Son in 1930 Alan Liles in Caterham, Surrey

family has said his father was frank atkins 1910 caterham , surrey. .

but he took his mothers Maiden name. that's why he's "Liles"

I'm stuck as to who Stella's parent's were , i've found a Harry liles from edmonton who married in 1910 ,(which would be Just before she was born making it a possible Father . but how can i find info to back that up to be right or wrong?

any help

Natasha

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2013 21:55

Birth for ref

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Liles Stella M Izzard Edmonton 3a 1067

Stella maybe a twin?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Liles Olire A Izzard Edmonton 3a 1066



Andy

Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 21:58

ooo that would be interesting , thank you i'll look into that

Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 22:07

i've looked up Izzard - Liles marriages. and found 1907 islington .
as it's a different area whats the chances?
hmmm

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2013 22:13

This is 1907

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
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CROSSWELL Joseph Thomas Islington 1b 510
HITCH Florence Alice Islington 1b 510
IZZARD Beatrice Mary Islington 1b 510
LIL_S Walter Islington 1b 510


Andy

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jan 2013 22:14

Name: Beatrice Mary Izzard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Walter Liles - engineer
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Dec 1907
Parish: St Matthias, Caledonian Road
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Thomas Izzard - engine driver
Spouse Father Name: Philip Liles - engineer
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Albert J Izzard Emily Agnes Izzard

Researching:
Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2013 22:14

1911 census for that marriage

1911 England Census
about Walter Liles
Name: Walter Liles
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Welwyn
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Block C, Sam Lewis Buildings, Liverpool Rd, Islington N
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 3
Estimated Marriage Year: 1908
Occupation: ENGINEERS LABOURER
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Islington South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 926
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Liles 27
Beatrice Mary Liles 25
Doreen Beatrice Liles

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2013 22:23

Bingo!

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Walter Liles
Name: Walter Liles
Probate Date: 29 Jan 1958
Death Date: 1 Nov 1957
Death Place: Eastbourne
Registry: Lewes


of 5 Queens Road Eastbourne
Probate to Stella Mary Jeffrey (wife of George Edward)
Effects £1742 7s


Andy

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jan 2013 22:24

Name: Beatrice M Liles
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1955
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 194

Name: Walter Liles
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 300

Andy's beaten me to it on the probate :-)

Researching:
Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)

Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 22:24

Thank you So much Andy.
Your a star.

Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 22:25

Definetly them!
they all ended up living in eastbourne. if it's not them i'll eat my hat!

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jan 2013 22:29

Census 1891 for Beatrice. Father's details match the marriage details I posted:

Reg. District: Edmonton<<<
Sub District: Tottenham
Parish: Tottenham
Enum. District: 20
Ecclesiastical District: St John
City/Municipal Borough: Tottenham

Address: 26, Stroma Terrace, Tottenham
County: Middlesex

IZZARD, Thomas A Head Married M 33 1858 Engine Driver Stationery
Clapton, Middlesex
IZZARD, Emily A Wife Married F 30 1861 Wardrobe Dealer Islington, Middlesex
IZZARD, Albert I Son M 11 1880 Scholar Islington, Middlesex
IZZARD, Maude E Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Islington, Middlesex
IZZARD, Reuben E Son M 8 1883 Scholar Islington, Middlesex
IZZARD, Beatrice M Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Tottenham, Middlesex<<<<<

Researching:
Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2013 22:30

Goes to show, don't take family stories as gospel. Wonder where Frank Atkins came from???

Andy

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jan 2013 22:33

Marriage of Beatrice's parents:

Name: Thomas Albert Izzard - engine driver
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emily Agnes Wright
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1879
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Joseph Izzard - waterman
Spouse Father Name: James Wright - glass maker
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses James Wright and Mary Skingle (?hard to decipher)

Researching:
Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)

Natasha

Natasha Report 8 Jan 2013 22:37

thank you Kucinta , that's Super that you've found that too.
THANK YOU :-D