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Brimages of Guernsey - 1800s

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William

William Report 10 Jan 2013 20:46

Brimage family originally from Guernsey
Why would this family (or Family members) have been in Liverpool one census1851.
In Guernsey 1871
Back in Liverpool later census.
What was link between Liverpool and Guernsey.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2013 20:48

hello William - can you give some full names and relevant dates please?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2013 20:52

I can see 26 Brimage's on the Guernsey census for the 1800's and 1900's but no mention of Liverpool amongst any of them

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Jan 2013 21:05

Is it this family?


1851 census transcription details for: 32, Lonsdale Street, Liverpool
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2182
Folio: 261
Page: 44
Reg. District: Liverpool
Sub District: Mount Pleasant
Parish: Liverpool
Enum. District: 1H
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 32, Lonsdale Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, John Thomas Head Married M 35 1816 Shoe Maker Master Emploing
Guernsey, Ireland
BRIMAGE, Harriet Wife Married F 35 1816 Nurse
Isle of Wight
BRIMAGE, Thomas Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Shop Boy
Island of Gurnsey
BRIMAGE, Richard Son Unmarried M 13 1838
Island of Gurnsey
BRIMAGE, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Rock Ferry, Cheshire
BRIMAGE, James Manley Son M 5 1846 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Charles Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1851
Toxteth Park, Lancashire
BAKER, Ann Servant Unmarried F 29 1822 House Servant
Waterford, Ireland
BUTLER, Stephen Lodger Unmarried M 16 1835 Shoe Maker
Dublin Ireland


1861 census transcription details for: 5, Knowsley Street, Everton, Liverpool
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2714
Folio: 58
Page: 15
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: 2 Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 28
Ecclesiastical District: St Chrysostoms
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 5, Knowsley Street, Everton, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, Harriett Head Widow F 45 1816 None
Newport, Isle of Wight
BRIMAGE, Richd Tayle Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Shoemaker Apprentice
Guernsey St Peters
BRIMAGE, James Manley Son M 15 1846 Tailor Boy
Old Swan, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Charles Mary Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Jan 2013 21:07

1841 census transcription details for: Russell Street, St Mary, Southampton
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 417
Book/Folio: 6/7
Page: 9
Reg. District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Southampton
Address: Russell Street, St Mary, Southampton
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CULL, Sarah F 45 1796 Hampshire
CULL, Charles M 15 1826 Hampshire
KAILL, John M 25 1816 Hampshire
KAILL, Selina F 26 1815 Hampshire
KAILL, John G M 5 1836 Hampshire
KAILL, William M 4 1837 Hampshire
KAILL, Mary A F 2 1839 Hampshire
BRIMAGE, John M 24 1817 shoemaker Foreign

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Jan 2013 21:18


1871 census transcription details for: Clement Road, St Peter Port
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5765
Folio: 94
Page: 13
Reg. District: Guernsey
Sub District:
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Clement Road, St Peter Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BROWN, Mary A Head F 60 1811 England
FENN, Charlotte Daughter F 27 1844 England
FENN, Charles Grandson M 10 1861 Channel Islands
FENN, Emma Granddaughter F 5 1866 Channel Islands
FENN, William Grandson M 1 1870 Channel Islands
DUFFETT, Martha Lodger F 21 1850 England
>>BRIMAGE, Charles Lodger M 21 1850 England
SLEET, Thomas Lodger M 31 1840 England



1881 census transcription details for: 47, Cornet Street House, St Peter Port
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5627
Folio: 13
Page: 19
Reg. District: Guernsey
Sub District: Guernsey - St Peter Port
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 47, Cornet Street House, St Peter Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, Charles Head Married M 30 1851 Tailor
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Martha Wife Married F 31 1850
Dorset
BRIMAGE, Rosina Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Guernsey, Channel Islands
BRIMAGE, Martha Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Guernsey, Channel Islands
BRIMAGE, Sarah Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Guernsey, Channel Islands
BRIMAGE, Ethel Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Guernsey, Channel Islands
BRIMAGE, Emily Daughter Single F 1 1880
Guernsey, Channel Islands


1891 census transcription details for: 33, Cornet Street, St Peter Port
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4703
Folio: 9
Page: 11
Reg. District: Jersey
Sub District: C
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District: 26
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter Port
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 33, Cornet Street, St Peter Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, Charles R Head Married M 41 1850 Carter
England
BRIMAGE, Martha Wife Married F 42 1849
England
BRIMAGE, Rosina Daughter Single F 19 1872 Charwoman
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Martha Daughter Single F 17 1874 Charwoman
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Sarah E Daughter Single F 15 1876 Charwoman
St Johns, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Ethel A Daughter F 13 1878 Charwoman
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Emily Ann Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Philipana Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Charles J Son M 6 1885 Scholar
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Mable Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, William J Son M 0 (10M) 1891
St Peter Port, Guernsey


1901 census transcription details for: 46, Corner Street, St Peter Port
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 5323
Folio: 13
Page: 17
Reg. District: Guernsey
Sub District: Guernsey - St Peter Port
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter Port
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 46, Corner Street, St Peter Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, Charles R Head Married M 50 1851 G Labourer
England
BRIMAGE, Martha Wife Married F 51 1850
England
BRIMAGE, Charles J Son M 14 1887 Marine Store Dealer's Asst
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Mabel J Daughter F 13 1888
St Peter Port, Guernsey
BRIMAGE, William J Son M 10 1891
St Peter Port, Guernsey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2013 23:47

now why didn't I think of looking at this the other way around :-D :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2013 23:54

just had another look and it seems it was only in the early 1800s that some of them moved to Lancashire and a few others moved to Devonshire

William

William Report 11 Jan 2013 19:51

Brimage family in question - Richard, Elizabeth,, Thomas, James, Charles, Mary, John. (as per 1851, 1861)
Family names have been carried forward over years.
Our closest - most recent and close link to above - George William Brimage born 1901 Liverpool.

Any link to John Brimage 1796 Guernsey, Thomas Brimage 1788 (Marine private??)

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 14:20

Right, so your connection is through James Manley, son of Richard and Elizabeth and grandson of John and Harriet in 1851/61 census.

Is this correct?


1911 census transcription details for: 66 Hartnup St Everton N Liverpool
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN22507 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED24 SN33
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: North Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 24
Address: 66 Hartnup St Everton N Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BRIMAGE, James Manley Husband Married M 41 1870 H Painter Liverpool
BRIMAGE, Marie Wife Married
18 years F 39 1872 Liverpool
BRIMAGE, Lilian Daughter Single F 17 1894 Caromel Wrapper Liverpool
BRIMAGE, Richard Henap Son Single M 15 1896 Liverpool
BRIMAGE, Harriet May Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Liverpool
BRIMAGE, George William Son Single M 10 1901 School Liverpool
BRIMAGE, Edith Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Liverpool
BRIMAGE, James Hopwell Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Liverpool



1901 census transcription details for: 24, Leadenhall Street, Everton
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3475
Folio: 136
Page: 21
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: North Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St Georges
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 24, Leadenhall Street, Everton
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, James Head Married M 31 1870 House Painter
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Maria Wife Married F 29 1872
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Lillian Daughter Single F 7 1894
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Richard Son Single M 5 1896
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, James Son Single M 4 1897
Liverpool, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Harriet Daughter Single F 2 1899
Liverpool, Lancashire


1891 census transcription details for: 2, Pickering Street, Everton, Liverpool
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2950
Folio: 71
Page: 23
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: South Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 39
Ecclesiastical District: St John the Evangelist
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 2, Pickering Street, Everton, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRUMMAGE, James Boarder Single M 21 1870 Painter
Liverpool
OWENS, John Lodger Single M 52 1839 Traveller
Liverpool
HOUSTON, James Lodger Single M 24 1867 Dry Salter
Paisley, Scotland



1881 census transcription details for: 29, Kilshaw St, Everton
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3673
Folio: 9
Page: 12
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 29, Kilshaw St, Everton
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, Richard Head Married M 42 1839 Shoemaker
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1846
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Thomas Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, James Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Richard Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Charles Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, Mary A Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
West Derby, Lancashire
BRIMAGE, John Son Single M 0 1881
West Derby, Lancashire
BULMER, Thomas Boarder Single M 43 1838 Traveller (Com)
Leeds, Yorkshire



1871 England Census about Richet Bennage
Name: Richet Bennage
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Bennage
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 77
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 3822
Folio: 65
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Richet Bennage 53, shoemaker b guernsey of 152/4 Spencer Street
Elizth Bennage 26
Thos Bennage 3
Bennage 1

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 14:46

Is this James' marriage?


Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about James Manley Brimage
Name: James Manley Brimage, painter of 96 Whitefield Rd
Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1893
Parish: Everton St Peter
Spouse's Name: Marie Shepherd
Father's Name: Richard Brimage, painter
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Kemp Shepherd


If so, who's birth is this?


Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James Henry Brimage
Name: James Henry Brimage
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1869
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1869
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's Name: Richard Brimage, shoemaker
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jane Brimage

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 15:11

Now here is John Brimage 1796, with Richard's family living nearby.


1841 census transcription details for: Tourgand, St Peter Port, Guernsey
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1460
Book/Folio: 12/35
Page: 17
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Guernsey
Address: Tourgand, St Peter Port, Guernsey
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
COUSINS, Rd M 70 1771 England
COUSINS, Chs M 15 1826 England
COUSINS, Sarah F 15 1826 England
COUSINS, Edward M 10 1831 England
SMITH, Samuel M 35 1806 England
SMITH, Mary F 60 1781 England
DAVID, Maria F 30 1811 England
DAVID, Edward M 5 1836 England
DAVID, John M 0 (1 months) 1841 Isle of Guernsey
>>BRIMAGE, Harriet F 25 1816 Shoe B England
>>BRIMAGE, Thomas M 5 1836 Isle of Guernsey
>>BRIMAGE, Richard M 3 1838 Isle of Guernsey
WHALE, Anne F 70 1771 England
>>BRIMAGE, John M 45 1796 Shipwright Isle of Guernsey
BRIMAGE, Mary F 40 1801 England
BRIMAGE, Mary A F 15 1826 Shoe B Isle of Guernsey
BRIMAGE, John M 7 1834 Isle of Guernsey


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1851 census transcription details for: 19, Glatney, St Peters Port
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2530
Folio: 61
Page: 15
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: St Peters Port
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 19, Glatney, St Peters Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, John Head Married M 63 1788 Shipwright
St P Port, Guernsey



1861 census transcription details for: ,
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4379
Folio: 82
Page: 3
Reg. District: Guernsey
Sub District:
Parish: St Peter Port
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Tethore
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hospital Workhouse of St Peter Port
County: Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRIMAGE, John Inmate Married M 67 1794 Ship Carpenter
St Peter Port, Guernsey

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 15:22

This seems to confirm that John, 1796 is the father of John 1816. Wife, Mary is mentioned in 1841.

Issue of John Brimage and Mary Rey
1. John Thomas BRIMAGE
Born 17 Feb 1816 at St Peter Port, Guernsey.
He was christened 3 Mar 1816 at Town Church, St Peter Port, Guernsey. Witnesses were Jean Samways, Jean Brimage, Marie Ray.
Another name, Charles, appears only on the marriage certificate of son Thomas in Liverpool in 1860, but this was several years after John had left his wife and family.


from http://www.shade.id.au/Brimage/Brimage4.htm



2. Thomas BRIMAGE
Born 2 Feb 1818 at St Peter Port, Guernsey.
He was christened 15 Feb 1818 at Town Church, Guernsey. Christening witnesses were Jean Brimage, Jean Samways, Marie Ray.
He died in Sep 1840 in Guernsey. He was buried 24 Sep 1850 at Stranger's Cemetery, Guernsey. At his death his age was given as "Aged 22 Yrs 7 Mths".
3. Mary Ann BRIMAGE
Born 15 Aug 1821 at St Peter Port, Guernsey.
She was christened 12 Sep 1821 at Town Church, Guernsey. Christening witnesses were Jean Rey, Rachel Phillips, Jane Le Gallez.

Ref 1841 census. Guernsey, Channel Islands. Civil Parish of St Peter Port. Address: Tourgand, St Peter Port.
Together with her parents and other relatives:
Mary A Brimage. Age 15. Shoe B. Born in Guernsey.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 15:28

Issue of John (Jean) Brimage and Susannah Street
1. Jean-James BRIMAGE
Born 30 Nov 1791 in Guernsey, Channel Islands.
He was christened on 11 Dec 1791 at Town Church, Guernsey. Christening witnesses were James Galading, Jean Brimage, Elizabeth Bazin.
He died in Sep 1793 in Guernsey. He was buried 17 Sep 1793 in Guernsey.
2. John BRIMAGE
Born 6 Mar 1795 at St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands.
He was christened on 18 Mar 1795 at Town Church, Guernsey. Christening witnesses were James Gladwin, John Brimage, Sarah Gladwin.



Lots of information on this site. You are so lucky to have it all laid out for you. :-)

William

William Report 13 Jan 2013 13:18

Lots of good information to check against and share with Brimage family . The site does look good.
Really appreciate your research and feedback.