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nope looks like this is that childs parents

Marriages Sep 1921
Shipton Muriel I Spain Wandsworth 1d 1042
Spain Sidney J V Shipton Wandsworth 1d 1042

Ahh I thought the child was about 3 when she visited so dismissed this birth .

maybe

Births Sep 1923
Spain Vera M Shipton Wandsworth 1d 816

PM from Jean.

Lillian was my grandmother. There is no trace of a marriage for her in the UK. She came to visit my mother, her daughter in 1923 with a baby I believe was called Vera. No trace of her beyond that date

No, neither could I Shirley. Not that many Lil* Shipton marriages to chose from either.

Perhaps she just took her partner's name and her death was registered in that name.

Thats what i thought too but Jean hasn't confirmed that.

I cant see a Vera with mmn Shipton or a marriage or death for Lilian as Shipton

I may be wrong Shirley but I thought that Jean's Mum was the Lilian born in 1910?

Jean, where was your Mum living around the time that Lillian (Senior) visited with Vera please?

What was your mums name . Does any of the census info where she is on her own tie up .

I know what happened to most of her siblings. Around 1923 Lillian Shipton came to visit her daughter, my mother, in London and had a baby with her by the name of Vera, I believe. Since then I do not have any knowledge of her whereabouts. There are no marriage records in the UK for her. No one left to ask now. I would just like to know what happened to her.

Hello Jean and welcome to the Community boards.

It looks as though one other member on this site has Lillian in their tree. If you click on the Search button above and then on Search all Trees, simply add Lillian (with two L's) into the box and you will see what I mean. You can contact the tree owner to see if they know anymore about her. Hope this helps. Cx

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1901 census transcription details for: 4, Queen Street Place, St Martin Vintry
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 266
Folio: 96
Page: 4
Reg. District: London City
Sub District: Allhallows Barking
Parish: St Martin Vintry
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: St Martins Vintry
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Queen Street Place, St Martin Vintry
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BROOKS, Lewis Head Married M 41 1860 Company's Messenger
Longworth, Berkshire
BROOKS, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1863
Eastwick, Salop
BROOKS, Edith L Daughter Single F 12 1889
Notting Hill, London
BROOKS, Gertrude D Daughter Single F 10 1891
Notting Hill, London
BROOKS, Minnie G Daughter Single F 8 1893
City, London
BROOKS, Frederick L Son Single M 5 1896
City, London
KEEGAN, Marie Servant Single F 25 1876 General Servant (Domestic)
London
SHIPTON, Lilian Servant Single F 16 1885 General Servant (Domestic)
Lambeth, London

Her family ?


1901 census transcription details for: 4, Sarnells Court, Fair Street, Horsleydown
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 386
Folio: 87
Page: 5
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark
Sub District: St Olave Southwark
Parish: Horsleydown
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Sarnells Court, Fair Street, Horsleydown
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHIPTON, Henry Head Married M 57 1844 Builders Labourer
Smithfield, London
SHIPTON, Mary A Wife Married F 45 1856
Bramshot, Hampshire
SHIPTON, Rose Daughter Single F 12 1889 School
Bermondsy S E, London
SHIPTON, George Son M 11 1890 School
Bermondsy S E, London
SHIPTON, Fredrick Son M 7 1894 School
Bermondsy S E, London
SHIPTON, David Son M 3 1898
Bermondsy S E, London
PETER, Wilson Boarder Single M 21 1880 Builders Labourer
Bermondsy S E, London



1891 census transcription details for: 4, Sarnells Court, Horsleydown, Southwark London
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 368
Folio: 94
Page: 56
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark
Sub District: St Olave Southwark
Parish: Horsleydown
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns Horsleydown
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Sarnells Court, Horsleydown, Southwark London
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHIPTON, Henry Head Married M 48 1843 Corn Porter
Smithfield, London
SHIPTON, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1855
Liphook, Surrey
SHIPTON, Harry Son M 14 1877 Scholar
Battersea, Surrey
SHIPTON, Albert Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Battersea, Surrey
SHIPTON, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Eastham, Essex
SHIPTON, Frank Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Vauxhall, Essex
SHIPTON, Daisy Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Vauxhall, Essex
SHIPTON, Lillian Daughter F 4 1887
Vauxhall, Essex
SHIPTON, Rose Daughter F 2 1889
Bermondsey
SHIPTON, George Son M 1 1890
Bermondsey


Rose has a different age to ancestry's transcription.

Are you looking for ancestors or descendants please?

1891

Name: Lillian Shipton
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Shipton
Mother's Name: Maryet Shipton
Gender: Female
Where born: Vauxhall, Essex, England

Civil parish: Horsleydown
Ecclesiastical parish: Horsleydown St John
Town: Southwark London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 368
Folio: 94
Page Number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Shipton 48 Corn Porter
Maryet Shipton 36
Hary Shipton 14
Albert Shipton 13
William Shipton 11
Frank Shipton 9
Daisy Shipton 4
Lillian Shipton 4
Rose Shipton 12
George Shipton 1

Births Sep 1886
Shipton Lilian Lambeth 1d 380


her daughter

Births Mar 1910
SHIPTON Lilian St. Olave 1d 148

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1911 England Census about Lilian Shipton
Name: Lilian Shipton
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom-- Lambeth
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Essex House, Essex Road, Islington N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: GENERAL SERVANT
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Islington South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 931
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gregory 32
Lilian Shipton 24
Lilian Shipton 1-- servants daughter b Bermondsey

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 931; ; .

Knowledge in what way please?? have you looked for her on any records , know if she married and to whom etc.

Does anyone have knowledge of the above-named. Any information would be greatly appreciated.