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keith

keith Report 16 Jan 2013 11:24

looking for info on the parents of my father ( John William Sayers) Born 1923 west ham east london died 2000, orphaned at an early age and raised by his sisters Sadly all now deceased so cant find any infomation any help appreciated thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:28

Hi Keith......welcome to the boards.

What were the names of John's Sisters?


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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about John W Sayers
Name: John W Sayers
Mother's Maiden Surname: North
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 371

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:31

Is this one of John's Sisters...

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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Alice E Sayers
Name: Alice E Sayers
Mother's Maiden Surname: North
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 599

Barry

Barry Report 16 Jan 2013 11:41

FreeBMD marriage

Ernest George Sayers to Ellen Maud North Q3 1907 West Ham ref 4a 255

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:41

And these siblings....

??

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
SAYERS Edith M C North W. Ham 4a 244

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Sayers Ellen D North W.Ham 4a 443

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Sayers Irene S North W.Ham 4a 333

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Sayers Ernest P North W. Ham 4a 303



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Edith M C Sayers
Name: Edith M C Sayers
Spouse Name: Sidney J Pearce
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 477


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Edith Marjory C Pearce
Name: Edith Marjory C Pearce
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1911
Date of Registration: Jan 2002
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: A56B
District and Subdistrict: 4661A
Entry number: 230



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Ellen D Sayers
Name: Ellen D Sayers
Spouse Name: John F Binion
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 56



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Ellen Doris Binion
Name: Ellen Doris Binion
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1913
Date of Registration: Jul 1990
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1606



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Irene S Sayers
Name: Irene S Sayers
Spouse Name: Albert L Smith
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 52



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Irene Sylvia Smith
Name: Irene Sylvia Smith
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1914
Date of Registration: Dec 1996
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: B48B
District and Subdistrict: 4661B
Entry number: 3



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Ernest P Sayers
Name: Ernest P Sayers
Spouse Name: Joyce E M Potter
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Brentwood
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1551



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Ernest P Sayers
Name: Ernest P Sayers
Birth Date: abt 1918
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1224

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2013 11:43

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Civil registration event: Marriage
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Name: SAYERS, Ernest George

Registration district: [?] West Ham

County: Essex

Year of registration: 1907

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 4A

Page no: [?] 255
MarriageFinder™: [?] Ernest George Sayers married one of the following people Transcript
NORTH, Ellen Maud

fathers death ????
Civil registration event: Death
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Name: SAYERS, Ernest G

Registration district: [?] West Ham

County: Essex

Year of registration: 1924

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Age at death:44

Volume no: 4A

Page no: 196

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jan 2013 11:47

?????

Name: SAYERS, Maud E

Registration district: [?] West Ham

County: Essex

Year of registration: 1930

Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Age at death:48

Volume no: 4A

Page no: 105

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:48

If the above is correct...

Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: SAYERS, Ellen
Address: 14 Beaumont Road Plaistow E

SAYERS, Ernest Head Married M 30 1881 Market Salesman Essex West Ham VIEW
SAYERS, Ellen Wife Married3 years F 29 1882 Essex West Ham VIEW
SAYERS, Alfred Son M 2 1909 Essex West Ham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9443
Reference: RG14PN9443 RG78PN507B RD188 SD3 ED33 SN85
Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Plaistow
Enumeration District: 33
Parish: West Ham
Address: 14 Beaumont Road Plaistow E
County: Essex

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:50

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Ernest George Sayers
Name: Ernest George Sayers
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1880
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 65



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Ernest G Sayers
Name: Ernest G Sayers
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1924
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 196

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 11:57


1901 England Census
about Ernest Sayres
Name: Ernest Sayres
[Ernest Sayers]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Sayres
Mother's Name: Ellen Sayres
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham; Plaistow

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 335
Piece: 1586
Folio: 32
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Sayres 56 (Lambeth London)
Ellen Sayres 55 (Lambeth London)
Ernest Sayres 20 >>Green Grocer
Alfred Sayres 15
Walker Sayers 11



1891 England Census
about Ellen Sayers
Name: Ellen Sayers
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Sayers
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1322
Folio: 107
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Sayers 46
Ellen Sayers 45
John Sayers 21 >>>Married
Mary Sayers 22 >>>Married (so probably Daughter in Law) Born Westminster London
Robert Sayers 17
Henry Sayers 15
William Sayers 13
Earnest Sayers 10
Thomas Sayers 8
Alfred Sayers 5
Walter Sayers 1
John Tom Sayers 2/12 (Grandson) Probably the son of John and Mary above.
Robert Wilson 23 (Boarder)




Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: SAYERS, Ellen Alice
Address: 56 Newman Road Plaistow E

SAYERS, Ellen Alice Wife Widow F 65 1846 Monthly Nurse Vauxhall Lambeth London VIEW
SAYERS, Walter Edward Son Single M 21 1890 Merchant Seaman A B Out Of Work At Home Ingal Rd Plaistow Essex VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9450
Reference: RG14PN9450 RG78PN507B RD188 SD3 ED40 SN200
Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Plaistow
Enumeration District: 40
Parish: West Ham
Address: 56 Newman Road Plaistow E
County: Essex
(10 children born, 9 living, 1 had died)


John and Mary from the 1891 census...


1901 England Census
about John Sayers
Name: John Sayers
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Sayers
Mother's Name: Mary Sayers
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 1574
Folio: 127
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
John Sayers 31
Mary Sayers 32 Born Westminster London
John Sayers 10
Robert Sayers 8
George Sayers 7
Henry Sayers 5
William Sayers 3
Ellen Sayers 1
Fanny Gray 23 (Sister in Law)


Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Gray Mary Ann E W. Ham 4a 244
Sayers John Thomas W. Ham 4a 244



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Thomas Sayers
Name: John Thomas Sayers
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1870
Father's Name: Charles Sayers
Mother's Name: Ellen Alice Sayers
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 12:16

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Ellen Alice Johnson
Name: Ellen Alice Johnson (Spinster)
Spouse Name: Charles Sayers (Bachelor) Labourer
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Oct 1866
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Thomas Johnson (Coal Porter)
Spouse Father Name: George Sayers (Smith)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Thomas ??? and Catherine Sayers

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jan 2013 12:30

1851 England Census
about Ellen Johnson
Name: Ellen Johnson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Johnson
Mother's Name: Mary Johnson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Princes Road
Town: Vauxhall
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 1572
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Johnson 43 (Coal Porter) Lambeth Surrey
Mary Johnson 41 Failsworth Lancashire
Thomas Johnson 20
Elizabeth Johnson 18
William Johnson 16
James Johnson 14
Henry Johnson 12
Mary Johnson 10
John Johnson 7
Ellen Johnson 5
Robert Johnson 2
Martha Johnson 2





Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Jan 2013 13:12

keith

Put the following in your favourites.............and use it for info between 1837 and c1955

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

keith

keith Report 17 Jan 2013 19:24

you have done marvellous thanks, funny enough today ifound my fathers birth certificate!!!,you have his parents and his sisters,
edith married to sid pierce, ellen(nell) wed to j binion and irene wed to a smith also
his brother earnest,there was another brother i think his name was alf but i don't remember him, so thanks for your help in all this how do you manage it
keith

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Jan 2013 19:46

Phew!!

Thank goodness for that!

As you can see above.......Alf "Alfred" is on the 1911 census with his parents.

All the births, deaths and marriages can be found on FreeBMD.

It's a free site that we all use..........in fact you wont get far without it!


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alfred Sayers
Name: Alfred Sayers
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 241



Prickles.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Jan 2013 20:11

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Alfred Sayers
Name: Alfred Sayers
Spouse Name: Alice M Sach
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1934
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 160



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Alfred Sayers
Name: Alfred Sayers
Birth Date: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1964
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 269



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alice May Sach
Name: Alice May Sach
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1905
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 122



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Alice May Sayers
Name: Alice May Sayers
Birth Date: 22 May 1905
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1969
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 246