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tying to find a j coles

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Annette

Annette Report 20 Jan 2013 12:07

trying to find a A J COLES his name apears on my grandfathers death certificate as son grandad died in 1935 in plymouth devon his name was fredrick coles i have search through the 1911 census if any one can help i will be gratifull

from annette riley

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Jan 2013 12:11

More info required please.

When and wherfe was your grandad born?

When and who did he marry?

Any children? One has to be your parent.

I cannot see a Frederick Coles death in Plymouth in 1935

Andy

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 12:14

Howold was Fredrick when he died. ?
Not seeing a death in Devon in 1935

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jan 2013 12:16

Are you sure it was 1935 he died?

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Frederick George Coles
Probate Date: 14 Oct 1936
Death Date: 14 Sep 1936
Death Place: Devon, England
Registry: London, England

Lived 5 Widey Park Road, Crownhill, Devonshire.
Admin to Arthur John Coles, carpenter, and George Herbert Coles, plasterer.
Effects £60 7s 3d.

(Is Arthur John the "A J" ?)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Jan 2013 12:16

????

Deaths Mar 1939 COLES Frederick T 68 Plymouth 5b 524

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 12:16

Is he one of these ?


Deaths Sep 1936
Coles Frederick G- 58- Plympton 5b 237


Deaths Mar 1939
COLES Frederick T- 68 Plymouth 5b 524


Deaths Jun 1943
Coles Frederick J - 83 Plymouth 5b 309

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jan 2013 12:22

If that probate I posted is correct (one of the administrators would have initials AJ) then this would be that family in 1911:

COLES, Frederick George Head Married M 31 1880 Saw Mill Proprietor Broomfield Somerset
COLES, Elizabeth Wife Married 7 years F 33 1878 Joiner Stogursey Somerset
COLES, Eva Grace Daughter F 6 1905 Bridgwater Somerset
COLES, Arthur John Son M 5 1906 Bridgwater Somerset
COLES, George Herbert Son M 2 1909 Enmore Somerset

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14267
Reference: RG14PN14267 RG78PN857 RD306 SD1 ED5 SN46
Registration District: Bridgwater
Sub District: North Petherton
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Enmore

Address: Belle Vue Cottages Enmore County: Somersetshire

No other children born at that time.

(Yes, he really has filled in on the form that his wife is a joiner).

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Jan 2013 12:24

1911

This looks like it MAY be the one who died in 1943. 4 children born 4 living.


Name: Frederick James Coles
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil parish: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Bedford Terrace, Plymouth
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Tea Merchant
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth North
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 278
Piece: 12942
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick James Coles 51
Theodosia Coles 47
Frederick J G Coles 26
Florence T Coles 24
Daisy E Coles 22
Stanley Coles 21
Neville H Turber 25



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jan 2013 12:28

Feedback and further info needed from Annette.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 12:32

Posting in case


Albert Jessie Coles
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Petherton
Civil parish: North Petherton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Chapel Road, Fordgate Nr Bridgwater
Registration district: Bridgwater


Frederick John Coles 30
Elizabeth Coles 25
Albert Jessie Coles 3
Hilda Mary Coles 1

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Another posibble death

Deaths Sep 1936
Coles Frederick W C - 62 - Devonport 5b 357

Christine

Christine Report 20 Jan 2013 12:33

there a Frederick A J Coles died Sept Q 1959 in cardiff aged 51 vol.8b page 182

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 12:38

Does the death cert give an occupation for Frederick ?

Annette

Annette Report 21 Jan 2013 13:46

It said he was a leather merchant hrs died in 1936 his address was 5 widely park road

Crown hill Devonshire Devon England

Annette

Annette Report 21 Jan 2013 13:48

It said he was a leather merchant hrs died in 1936 his address was 5 widely park road

Crown hill Devonshire Devon England

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Jan 2013 15:08

That links with the probate entry posted by Marieceleste then....same address, so AJ is more than likely Arthur John.

Gwyn

Annette

Annette Report 21 Jan 2013 16:34

Thank you all your help