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Help John Kenward born Lewes between 1860 & 1863

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Mark

Mark Report 23 Jan 2013 10:53

Hi Reggie,

Thanks this is where my confusion begins. That said I have place an order for the marriage certificate, so hopefully all will become clear.

Again appreciate everyones help.

Mark

Reggie

Reggie Report 23 Jan 2013 10:31

1891 census shows the one whose father was JAMES, living with father & siblings

1891 England Census about John Kenward
Name: John Kenward
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Kenward
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England
Civil parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Lewes
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 798
Folio: 27
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Kenward 59
Samuel Kenward 31
John Kenward 29
James Kenward 23
Annie Kenward 19
Henry Kenward 17
Maggie Kenward 11


ALSO..............this one was John ALFRED Kenward (ref 1871 census)

Mark

Mark Report 23 Jan 2013 10:24

Hi Marie Celeste, Kathleen & Ann,

Many thanks. It was my mistake Emily is the mother I have the birth certificate for Thomas.

In relation to John Kenward I have found this so far:

1871 Census - there is a John born approx 1860 with parents John (1834 & Elizabeth)

1881 Cencus - John born 1860 a nephew staing with William & Jane Fuller, to which I have found no connection)

1891 Cencus - John born 1862 Lighterman in 91 South Street. I do believe that this is the correct John as the family names match and the occupation is correct.

1901 Cencus - John born 1862 correct family names and Thomas appears aged 8.
As suggested I will attempt to get the marriage certificate and go from there.

I really appreciate your help. Many thanks Mark

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2013 12:04

Mark, the surest way to trace John back is to order a copy of his marriage certificate, all the details are given above. The certificate should (if he knew him) give his father's name and occupation.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jan 2013 11:49

I've deleted the second 1891 family that I posted as the first one is probably correct as MarieCeleste says.

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2013 11:40

The first of the 1891 census that Kathleen posted must be the correct one.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jan 2013 11:40

William Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1895 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Ernest Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1897 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Emily Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1901 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Dorothy Mary Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1901 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Fanny Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1891 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Ann, Sussex, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jan 2013 11:39

???????????????

John Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1884 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Ellen Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1887 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Rose Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1889 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Mabel Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1891 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

Thomas Kenward
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1893 Lewes, Sussex
census 31 Mar 1901 Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe, Sussex, England

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2013 11:38

That 1901 census I posted must be correct because John Kenward married EMILY Vaughns, not Elizabeth:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1882
Burgess Ada Georgina Lewes 2b 302
FUNNELL John Edward Lewes 2b 302
Kenward John Lewes 2b 302
VAUGHNS Emily Lewes 2b 302 <<<<<

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jan 2013 11:37

It was Emily Vaughns that John married, NOT Elizabeth:-

Name: KENWARD, John
Registration district: Lewes
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1882
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 302

MarriageFinder: John Kenward married one of the following people:

VAUGHNS, Emily<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BURGESS, Ada Georgina
FUNNELL, John Edward

This marriage certificate should name his father and give an address at the time.

Kath. x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jan 2013 11:36

name: Thomas Kenward
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 8
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Lewes, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Lewes
sub-district: Lewes
ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas A Becket
civil parish: Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe
county: Sussex

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jan 2013 11:33

Do you know anything else about the family?

There is this on in the 1891 census:-

1891 census transcription details for: 91, South Street, South Malling, Lewes

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 798
Folio: 83
Page: 15
Reg. District: Lewes
Sub District: Lewes
Parish: South Malling
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: South Malling
City/Municipal Borough: Lewes

Address: 91, South Street, South Malling, Lewes
County: Sussex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

KENWARD, John Head Married M 29 1862 Lighterman
Lewes, Sussex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
KENWARD, Emily Wife Married F 28 1863
Cuckfield, Sussex
KENWARD, John K Son M 8 1883
Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Alice Daughter F 6 1885
Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Ellen Daughter F 4 1887
Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Rose Daughter F 2 1889
Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Mabel Daughter F 0 (10M) 1891
Lewes, Sussex

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2013 11:33

Hello Mark, it often helps us to work back from a known fact, such as a census record.
What census do you have Thomas born 1893 on?

I found this 1901, but the mother is called Emily?

KENWARD, John Head Married M 39 1862 Labourer (General) Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Emily Wife Married F 38 1863 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, John Son Single M 17 1884 Labourer (General) Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Ellen Daughter F 14 1887 Domestic Servant Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Rose Daughter F 12 1889 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Mabel Daughter F 10 1891 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Thomas Son M 8 1893 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, William Son M 6 1895 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Ernest Son M 4 1897 Lewes, Sussex
KENWARD, Emily Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1901 Lewes, Sussex

Piece: 917 Folio: 75 Page: 23
Registration District: Lewes
Civil Parish: Lewes St Thomas a Becket in the Cliffe

Address: 6, South Street Union Terrace, Lewes St Thomas A Becket In The Cliffe County: Sussex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jan 2013 11:31

name: John Kenward
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Dec 1859
baptism/christening place: St. Thomas', Lewes, Sussex, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Kenward
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03973-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1469002
reference number: item 3

Mark

Mark Report 22 Jan 2013 11:23

Can anyone help me? I am looking for my Great Grandfather John Kenward who was born and lived in Lewes East Sussex. In 1882 John Kenward married Elizabeth Vaughns and my Grandfather Thomas was one of their children born in 1893. My problem is that in the various Cencus that I have searched I find several John Kenwards, and cannot identify the correct person.

I think the John I am looking for had parents John & Elizabeth. There is another John with parents James & Jane who I think I have ruled out!

Does anyone have any suggestions or think they may be related?

Many thanks Mark Kenward