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AMENDED (AGAIN) John Race PROBATE

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Marian

Marian Report 22 Jan 2013 22:52

I am looking for John on the above census. He was baptised 8.5.1837 at St Andrews church, Bishop Auckland, Co Durham. Parents John and Jane. Thank you.

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jan 2013 22:55

1851 England Census
about John Race
Name: John Race
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Race
Mother's Name: Jane Race
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stanhope Forest Quarter
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 2388
Folio: 47
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John Race 65
Jane Race 53
Sarah Race 31
Margaret Race 19
John Race 17
Joseph Race 13




Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2013 22:56

Just for reference.................

1911 England Census
Name: John Race
Age in 1911: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bp Auckland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Bishop Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Newton Cap Bank Bp Auckland
Occupation: Gardiner
Registration district: Auckland
Registration District Number: 547
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 29706
Household Members:
Name Age
John Race 73
Lane Race 68
Harriat Sedgwick 22
Elfreda Sedgwick 1
Harriat Sedgwick 3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2013 22:57

If this is the right lad, father died......mother re-married

1851 England Census

Name: John Race
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son-in-law********************STEP SON
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England
Civil parish: Stanhope Forest Quarter
Ecclesiastical parish: Heatherycleugh
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Piece: 2388
Folio: 71
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Smith 36
Jane Smith 36
John Race 13
Robinson Gray 10
Joseph Gray 8
Mary Gray 5
James Gray 8 Mo
Ann Smith 10


The Grays are stepchildren also........

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2013 23:02

1841 shows..........

Jane GRAY 25
John Gray 10
John Race 3
Robinson Gray 3 months

Living at Cowshill


Can't C&P as normal.........in their wisdom, Ancestry have transcribed everyone separately

Marian

Marian Report 22 Jan 2013 23:05

Thank you, I think Jane may have remarried because I have found a buriel for a John Race 5.5.1837 (born 1814) at St Andrew, Auckland.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2013 23:08

1871 England Census

Name: John Race
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Race
Gender: Male
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England
Civil parish: Stanhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Heathery Cleugh
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 4949
Folio: 58
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
John Race 33
Jane Race 28
John J Race 1
James Grey 20 BROTHER
Mary Lowes 18

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2013 23:11

I can't at the moment see her marriage to GRAY............


Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
Coulthard John Weardale 24 347
Fairless Jane Weardale 24 347
Forster Robert Weardale 24 347
Graham Thomas Weardale 24 347
Gray Jane Weardale 24 347
Lowe Mary Weardale 24 347
Peart Tamar Weardale 24 347
Smith William Weardale 24 347

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 19:33

I have found this entry below for 1851
Hull Mary Head W F 73 1778 Gardeness Bishop Auckland
Hull May daughter unmarried F 40 1811 Newton Cap, Auckland Durham
Race John son unmarried M 13 1838 scholar Newton Cap Auckland Durham
Address: Newton Cap Auckland Co Durham

His mother's maiden name was Hull so I believe this is him. Could someone take a look at the 1841 and 1861 census to see if he is still at the address. On the 1881 census he is at Newton Cap. The 1911 census (see above) has a John Race at Newton Cap. Thank you.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jan 2013 19:45

1841 - township of Forest ( looks like ..Coashill)


John Race
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Stanhope
Hundred: Darlington (North West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St Johns


JaneGray 25
John Gray 11
John Race 3

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 19:49

Hi Mike, Reggie posted that one last night. I was hoping John would be with Mary and Mary, would you mind looking to see if you can find her? thanks. It will be Auckland area.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jan 2013 19:51

1861 -


John Race
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stanhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Heathery Cleugh
County/Island: Durham


William Smith 45
Jane Smith 26
John Race 23 -Son-in-law
Robinson Gray 20 -Son-in-law
Joseph Gray 18 -Son-in-law
Mary Gray 15 - dau in law
James Gray 10 - son in law
Isabela Smith 8 - daughter


son in law may mean stepson

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jan 2013 19:56

1841


Mary Hull
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: St Andrew Auckland
Hundred: Darlington (North West Division)
County/Island: Durham .


HULL

THOMAS -25
MARY -30
JOHN - 3
THOMAS -2
JOSEPH - 5 MONTHS

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 20:01

Thanks Mike, I wonder where Mary snr is.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jan 2013 20:01

1841

Mary Hull
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Washington
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:


Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Harraton


John Hull 63
Mary Hull 65



Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 20:03

Thanks again, I should have waited shouldn't I :-)

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 21:31

John died March Q 1917 aged 81, could someone please look at Ancestry for the Probate/Will. I've had a look at the Ancestry index and it looks as though there is only one John for 1917. Thank you.

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Jan 2013 21:45

This the one?


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about John Race
Name: John Race
Probate Date: 9 May 1917
Death Date: 13 Apr 1917
Death Place: Durham, England
Registry: Durham, England

of 11 Esh Terrace, Langley Park. Probate to George Edward Johnson newsagent and Thomas Watson Wilson, surgeon. Effects £220.

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 21:46

Yes Alvie that's the one, does it say who executors are, thanks.

Marian

Marian Report 23 Jan 2013 21:51

Ooops, missed the bottom bit. thanks. :-)