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im looking for information on my husbands biological grandparents all we know is his grandmother was called elizabeth burgess married to harold burgess they had 2 children named olwyn and trevor we think elizabeth died around 1959 when olwyn was 11 years old and trevor was 6mnths old harold later went on to marry connie and elizabeth was never spoke about but we would like to find out all we can

Freebmd is busy at the moment but there is a Harold Burgess married to a Gladys Marshall in Manchester 1948. Are you certain of Elizabeth's name?- jl

Olwyn born Manchester 1949 mother mn Marshall-jl

now this is were we get very confused because he remembers gladys marshall as being his grandmother but we were always told that harold was married to elizabeth so all we know is harold is the father to olwyn and trevor but we are uncertain as to there mother

I've had my post RR- quite rightly I removed the surname but forgot the date I was dealing with. I think the name of your deceased relative may be Gladys.-jl

was gladys the mother of olwyn and trevor

Yes on the first birth according to freebmd- the site is busy at the moment so you may wish to look at it yourself. My post was rr because I put the name of someone who may be living. Providing you wish to find someone who has died it is ok to continue on the board but if you need to find a living relative then it will have to go on the Find Living Relative board- jl

well his mum was def a Marshall
Name: Olwyn E Burgess
Mother's Maiden Surname: Marshall
Date of Registration 1949

Shirley I have just had my post rr for giving that information (without the surname )of the daughter-j

edit thought the child's name of Olwyn was female??

same area as Olwyn's birth reg

Name: Gladys Burgess
Birth Date: abt 1923
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1958
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 300

Janet i deliberately didnt gve the full GRO details so as not to give personal details out for him./her

Its trying to decide whats the right amount of info to give so as not to invade privacy.

A very fine line sometimes .

SO i have been RR,d now too WHY ?? I didnt give full GRO refs etc

i can honestly assure you that the only people im interested in are no longer with us olwyn is a female name yes and she was 11 when her mum died so im quite sure gladys is the name im after im just very confused as to where elizabeth came from

harold later went on to marry a lady called connie and they had 2 children together aswell named catherine and hazel but it is his first wife im intersted in not his second

There is a Gladys Burgess died 1959 in Rochdale.

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1959

Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BURGESS Gladys 50 Rochdale Rochdale ROCH/5/10

P.S. Olwyn is an Olwyn E

Edit: Rochdale cemetery info
Burgess, Gladys, d. 1 Jun 1959, age: 50yr

Possible family for Gladys, 1911.

MARSHALL, Joseph Head Married M 28 1883 General Labourer Denton Lancashire
MARSHALL, Mary Helen Wife Married3 years F 28 1883 Felt Hat Trimmer Denton Lancashire
MARSHALL, Glaydys Daughter Single F 3 1908 School Denton Lancashire
CATLOW, Gilbert Stepson Single M 10 1901 School Hyde Cheshire
CATLOW, William Father In Law Widower M 63 1848 Felt Hat Planker Gee Cross Cheshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 24395 Reference: RG14PN24395 RG78PN1398 RD468 SD5 ED10 SN257 Registration District: Ashton under Lyne Sub District: Denton Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Denton Address: 135 Town Lane Denton County: Lancashire

could you get Trevor or olwyn birth certificate?

im not sure if my father in law will let me have her birth certificate im not sure where olwyn was born but she married stuart raymond duff in or around between 1970 and 1971 there first born was andrew colin duff who was born in bury manchester on june 10th 1970 he is also sadley deceased

but it is olwyn elizabeth born 28th october 1948 i think its her parents im looking for