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In my research I had contact with another member of the family who has three children born to Catherine and John Dowling before they married in 1910. I think they are the three mentioned on the 1911 census.

Thank you again Tenerife Sun

In 1891 they were not at the address they were at in 1901 ie 6 Orange Street Holborn

Also they weren't at 10 Baldwin Gardens Holborn the address at her time of marriage on 12/02/1900.

********by the way Arthur John Rogers was a widower when he married Catherine the first child was born in 1899 and was possibly from his first marriage, although the 1911 says Catherine had three children all living but I can't find their births.

Thank you Tenerife Sun for your efforts. Unfortunately you haven't answered my original question and have only confirmed details I knew.

Thanks anyway

Catherine/Katherine married a second time to John Dowling ...


Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
BRETT Florence Amelia Holborn 1b 992
Dowling John Holborn 1b 992 *****
Rogers Catherine Mary Holborn 1b 992 *****
Turner James George Holborn 1b 992

In 1911 they were living at the same address as her mother Mary Ring


Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
DOWLING, John Head Married M 42 1869 Carman Carriers London Holborn VIEW
DOWLING, Katherine Wife Married 3 years F 39 1872 London Holborn
VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 1227 Reference: RG14PN1227 RG78PN42 RD14 SD2 ED12 SN515 Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Clerkenwell Enumeration District: 12 Parish: St James and St John Clerkenwell

Address: 15 Sadler St E C County: London refine current search back to 1911 census search results1911 address search

The census says married 3 years and that she had had 3 children all alive

1901


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
RING, William Head Married M 60 1841 Warehouse Porter
Ireland VIEW
RING, Mary Wife Married F 53 1848 Pottery Seller
Ireland VIEW
ROGERS, Kate Daughter Married F 28 1873 Cigar Maker
Holborn, London VIEW
ROGERS, Kate Grand Daughter F 2 1899
Holborn, London VIEW
ROGERS, Cicely Grand Daughter F 1 1900
Holborn, London VIEW Piece: 245 Folio: 144 Page: 17 Registration District: Holborn Civil Parish: St Andrew Holborn Above the Bars and St George the Martyr Municipal Borough: Address: 9, Orange Street, St Andrew Holborn Above The Bars And St George The Martyr County: London

Mary Ring in 1911 with her grand children
Still in Holborn, a widow, she had had 4 children and I died.

Name: Mary Ring
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Clare, Clare, Ireland
Civil parish: Clerkenwell St James and Clerkenwell St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Sadler St, Rosebery Avenue E C
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: COSTERMONGER
Registration district: Holborn
Registration District Number: 14
Sub-registration district: Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 1227
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ring 64
Katherine Rogers 12
Cissie Rogers 11

......... and her parents are still alive on 1901 census.

Catherine's marriage? Her father is still alive.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Catherine Ring
Name: Catherine Ring
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Age: 27
Spouse Name: Arthur John Rogers
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Feb 1900
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Father Name: William Ring, warehouseman
Spouse Father Name: William Rogers (dec)
Register Type: Parish Register

I am looking for the family below in 1891.

I have posted the 1881 census.

Thanks

Peter

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1881 census transcription details for: 13, Little Saffron Hill, Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents And Ely Place

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 343
Folio: 39
Page: 10
Reg. District: Holborn
Sub District: Saffron Hill
Parish: Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents and Ely Place
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 13, Little Saffron Hill, Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents And Ely Place
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RING, William Head Married M 38 1843 Porter Ireland
RING, Mary A Wife Married F 33 1848 Ireland
RING, Catherine Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Holborn, Middlesex

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