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29 Jan 2013 14:03 |
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Thomas H Robson Name: Thomas H Robson Birth Date: abt 1849 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942 Age at Death: 93 Registration district: Border Inferred County: Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 812
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29 Jan 2013 12:41 |
I take it there is some connection to this person?
Births Dec 1856 Robson William Humble Newcastle Tyne 10b 12
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about William Humble Robson Name: William Humble Robson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1881 Age at Death: 24 Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Inferred County: Northumberland
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29 Jan 2013 11:43 |
I think I would be inclined to buy the 1849 birth certificate and see if that Thomas is illegitimate and see what his mother's name actually is. It's the only likely birth I can see for a Thomas H. Robson in Newcastle, although of course as early as 1849 his birth may not have been registered.
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29 Jan 2013 11:34 |
This is the Shield family in 1861:-
1861 census transcription details for: Water Side, Whickham, Swalwell Village
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3807 Folio: 137 Page: 20 Reg. District: Gateshead Sub District: 3 Whickham Parish: Whickham Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Water Side, Whickham, Swalwell Village County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHIELD, Thomas Head Married M 53 1808 Spade And Shovel Maker Employing 3 Men 5 Boys Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, Sarah Wife Married F 76 1785 Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, William Son M 13 1848 Ap Spade Making Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, Sarah Ann Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, Josephine Hall Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Swalwell, Durham SHIELD, Isabella Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Swalwell, Durham
It seems strange that Thomas Shield would have his son with the family in 1851 if the son was the product of an affair. His wife must have been very understanding!!.
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29 Jan 2013 00:47 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Thomas Humble Robson Name: Thomas Humble Robson Probate Date: 28 Jul 1942 Death Date: 2 Apr 1942 Death Place: Carlisle Registry: Newcastle Upon Tyne
to George Waddell, mill manger Effects £5522
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29 Jan 2013 00:45 |
Linked..?
Name: Anna Maria Robson Probate Date: 23 Nov 1936 Death Date: 14 Oct 1936 Death Place: Northumberland, England Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Anna Maria Robson of 32 Tynedale Gardens, Stockfield, Northumberland ( wife of Thomas Humble Robson ) died 14 October 1936. Probate Newcastle-upon-Tyne 23 November to the said Thomas Humble Robson retired mill manager.
Effects £1731 ..5s..3d
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29 Jan 2013 00:38 |
I wondered if Mary Mitchell was the boy's mother, but then again, he is not on this census with the "mother" 1851 England Census about Mary Mitchell Name: Mary Mitchell Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Margaret Mitchell Gender: F (Female) Where born: Elsdon, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Otterburn County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Bellingham Sub-registration district: Bellingham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 2417 Folio: 62 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Mitchell 59 Thomas A Mitchell 34 John Mitchell 28 son Surgeon Eliza Mitchell 26 Mary Mitchell 23 Maria Ann Mitchell 20 Charles E Robertson 26 visitor b midlothian. Surgeon James Milburn 13
Here he is: 1851 England Census about Thomas H Robson Name: Thomas H Robson Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Shield Mother's Name: Sarah Shield Gender: M (Male) Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Whickham County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Whickham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 276 Piece: 2403 Folio: 134 Page Number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Shield 41 Sarah Shield 38 Ann Shield 22 Thomas Shield 20 Robert Shield 16 William Shield 12 Sarah Ann Shield 4 Josephine H Shield 2 Mo Jane Shield 12 Thomas H Robson 2
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Gillian Jennifer
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29 Jan 2013 00:12 |
I believe his father to be Shield, but of the three children he had whilst married to others is the only one not using his surname.
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Gillian Jennifer
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29 Jan 2013 00:11 |
Thank you for that, I will certainly check.
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KathleenBell
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28 Jan 2013 23:19 |
Is this Thomas's birth:-
Name: ROBSON, Thomas Humble Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1849 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 25 Page no: 371
If it is then the certificate should name his mother and if he was illegitimate then his middle name "Humble" could be his father's surname.
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Gillian Jennifer
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28 Jan 2013 23:00 |
Looks possible his Mother was Mary Robson.
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Gillian Jennifer
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28 Jan 2013 22:55 |
1871 step grand son, interesting.
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28 Jan 2013 22:53 |
1861 England Census about Margaret Mitchell Name: Margaret Mitchell Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Margaret Mitchell Gender: Female Where born: Elsdon, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Otterburn County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bellingham Sub-registration district: Bellingham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Piece: 3868 Folio: 48 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Mitchell 68 John Mitchell 39 Son Margaret Mitchell 40 Dau Mary Robson 33 Dau Thomas H Robson 12 Boarder
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28 Jan 2013 22:51 |
It looks like 1911 Margaret Mitchell had passed away, and he was living there with his cousins, I think x x
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28 Jan 2013 22:50 |
1871
1871 England Census about Margaret Mitchell Name: Margaret Mitchell Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Margaret Mitchell Gender: Female Where born: Northnd, Elsdon Civil parish: Otterburn County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Bellingham Sub-registration district: Bellingham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 27 Piece: 5157 Folio: 40 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Mitchell 78 Margaret Mitchell 50 Daughter William Douglas 13 Grandson Thomas Robson 22 Step Grandson Snowden Douglas 57 Son in Law
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Gillian Jennifer
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28 Jan 2013 22:49 |
Thank you everybody, he is one of three children born out of wedlock while their father was married. This infor is very good, thank you xx
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28 Jan 2013 22:48 |
In 1911 he is described as "cousin":-
1911 census transcription details for: Otterburn
National Archive Reference: RG14PN30984 RG78PN1772 RD563 SD1 ED10 SN37 Reg. District: Bellingham Sub District: Bellingham Parish: Otterburn Enum. District: 10
Address: Otterburn County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DOUGLAS, Margaret Head Single F 55 1856 Shopkeeper Northd Morpeth DOUGLAS, Anna M Sister Single F 48 1863 Housekeeper Co Durham Gateshead ROBSON, Thomas H Cousin Single M 62 1849 Mill Foreman Northd Newcastle on Tyne TAYLOR, Frances Servant Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Northd Wallsend
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Gillian Jennifer
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28 Jan 2013 22:47 |
Wow, that looks possible, I can find very little on him, but this looks good x x Thank you very much xx
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28 Jan 2013 22:47 |
1881
1881 England Census about Margaret Mitchell Name: Margaret Mitchell Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Elsdon, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Otterburn County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: Otterburn Village Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Draper And Grocer Registration district: Bellingham Sub-registration district: Bellingham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5111 Folio: 42 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Mitchell 61 Margaret A. Douglas 25 Annie Maria Douglas 18 Thomas H. Robson 32
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28 Jan 2013 22:46 |
maybe not lol it would have been a long courtship!
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