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Florence Eva Challoner (known as Eva Horn)

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Debbie

Debbie Report 1 Feb 2013 16:06

I am trying to find out where Florence Eva Annie Challoner went to. According to information provided to me known as Eva Horn and US citizen.

Still in Leicester, England 1911 with parents Richard Cheatle and Emily Challoner.

Found a marriage to a John Thorp in 1912 which is possible, but no marriage to a Horn?

Any advice or anyone with information...

I would love to hear from you

Debbie

Researching:
Challoner, Billings, Godfrey, Broadhurst, Ritchie, Dunbar, Hadden, Silk, Warwick

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Feb 2013 16:16

Welcome to the boards Debbie.

For ref

1911 England Census
about Florence Eva Annie Challoner
Name: Florence Eva Annie Challoner
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 109 Cobden Street Leicester
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Elementary School Teacher Town Council
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: North West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Piece: 19200
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Cheatle Challoner 48
Emily Challoner 52
Florence Eva Annie Challoner 26
Esther Emily Challoner 24
Mary Elizabeth Challoner


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Feb 2013 16:25

I suppose it is possible that she never married but there is this which could be her????????

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Florence E M Challoner
Name: Florence E M Challoner
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1963
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10b
Page: 548

Could the M be mistrascribed and it should have been an A??

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Feb 2013 16:26

Why do you think Eva Horn is to do with her please?

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:27

I was thinking the same Mel.....but


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Florence Editha Mary Challoner
Name: Florence Editha Mary Challoner
Probate Date: 10 Jan 1964
Death Date: 13 Oct 1963
Death Place: Blackpool
Registry: Lancaster, England

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Feb 2013 16:34

One child?

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Thorp John J Challoner Leicester 7a 700


Andy

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:36

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Richard Challoner
Probate Date: 30 Aug 1944
Death Date: 21 Jul 1944
Death Place: Leicestershire, England
Registry: Leicestershire, England

£725 9s 3d to Esther Emily Ellingworth - widow. Address: 109 Cobden St, Leicester

Might be worth sending for the Will to check is Florence is mentioned


Looks like it's his daughter above


Marriages Dec 1915
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Challoner Esther E Ellingworth Leicester 7a 979
Ellingworth Alfred W Challoner Leicester 7a 979

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:41

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Florence Eva Annie Thorp
Probate Date: 27 Nov 1961
Death Date: 15 Sep 1961
Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Registry: Leicestershire, England

Wife of John Joseph Thorp

£11254 5s to John George Bucker, chartered accountant

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:44

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Challoner Florence E A Thorp Leicester 7a 700
Thorp John J Challoner Leicester 7a 700

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:47

Florence' husband


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John Joseph Thorp
Probate Date: 19 Mar 1964
Death Date: 13 Feb 1964
Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Registry: Leicestershire, England

£21589 to John George Buckler, chartered accountant

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Feb 2013 16:51

O Well done Gins. I was called away!!

Debbie

Debbie Report 1 Feb 2013 16:52

Thanks all for the responses...
It is a possiblilty she never married...

Esther Ellingworth is mentioned in Richard's brother William's Will along with Mary, but Eva not mentioned - which is odd

Information from Lord Guisborough keeps a record of Challoner info, which mentions Eva Horn a US citizen, other family members have mention it too - unless it is heresay?

I will obtain Richard's will, which might shed some light - thank you Gins

Researching:
Challoner, Billings, Godfrey, Broadhurst, Ritchie, Dunbar, Hadden, Silk, Warwick

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Feb 2013 16:58

Well I think that just about sums it up.

Whoever said she was an Eva Horn has it all wrong in my eyes.

There are a couple of trees on Ancestry and they have all sorts of misinfo on them. Some hav'nt even got her parents right.

Debbie

Debbie Report 1 Feb 2013 16:58

Marriage to Thorp seems a good fit - thank you Gins and Mel for you info.

Researching:
Challoner, Billings, Godfrey, Broadhurst, Ritchie, Dunbar, Hadden, Silk, Warwick

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 16:59

Thanks Mel, did you get permission to be called away ;)


Debbie

The above info, confirms that Florence remained in the UK

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Feb 2013 17:03

Apologies, posts crossed

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Debbie

Debbie Report 1 Feb 2013 19:19

How or where did you find the wills and probate info?

Researching:
Challoner, Billings, Godfrey, Broadhurst, Ritchie, Dunbar, Hadden, Silk, Warwick

Gins

Gins Report 2 Feb 2013 10:27

For a copy of the Will

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/family-history



The Probate records are on Ancestry

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/

Researching:
You fill up my senses Like a gallon of Magnet Like a packet of Woodbines Like a good pinch of snuff Like a night out in Sheffield Like a greasy chip butty Like Sheffield United Come fill me again....Na Na Na Naa Naa Naaaaa, ooo! Sung to 'Annies Song' (Tune)

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Feb 2013 22:51

Thank you Gins - I will look at them...

Researching:
Challoner, Billings, Godfrey, Broadhurst, Ritchie, Dunbar, Hadden, Silk, Warwick