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Megan
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4 Feb 2013 04:28 |
Thank you for all your digging and finding so much!!!
Theophila Kirkpatrick was my mother's paternal grandmother and I can not find a record of her birth but we have it from family records.
Theophila's sister, Elizabeth, married in 1884 to John Garrock Beddie b1861-d1944 (brother of Theophila's husband, William Beddie).
I know that Thomas Kirkpatrick arrived with assisted passage to Australia on the 'Formosa' on 28 May 1838 with wife, Helen/Ellen Dunnage (and a child - John??)
I have plenty of names and dates to add to the tree now - thank you
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3 Feb 2013 15:43 |
Other children of John Hunter Kirkpatrick and Margaret Jones:
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about John Kirkpatrick Name: John Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1856 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1856 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 2733
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Janet S Kirkpatrick Name: Janet S Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1858 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1858 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 4051 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Agnes M Kirkpatrick Name: Agnes M Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1860 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1860 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 4201 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Thomas J Kirkpatrick ***** See death below Name: Thomas J Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1862 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1862 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 4087 Name: Margaret Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1864 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1864 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 4431 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Robert Kirkpatrick Name: Robert Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1865 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1865 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 4758 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Mary E Kirkpatrick Name: Mary E Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1867 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1867 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 5104 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Agnes A Kirkpatrick Name: Agnes A Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1869 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1869 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 5447 Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about James E Kirkpatrick Name: James E Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1874 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1874 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 6039 Name: Adam L H Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1876 Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1876 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 6621
Deaths Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Thomas J Kirkpatrick Name: Thomas J Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1896 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1896 Registration Place: Nyngan, New South Wales Registration number: 14641 New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1796-1942 about Thomas James Kirkpatrick Name: Thomas James Kirkpatrick Inquest Date: 29 Sep 1896 Inquest Location: Nyngan Death Place: East Nyngan Run Nyngan Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Birth Place: Albury, New South Wales Injuries received after falling from a wagon.
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about James E Kirkpatrick Name: James E Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1879 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1879 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 3846
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Adam L H Kirkpatrick Name: Adam L H Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1923 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John J Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1923 Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales Registration number: 163 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Robert Kirkpatrick Name: Robert Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1933 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1933 Registration Place: Drummoyne, New South Wales Registration number: 5358 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John Kirkpatrick Name: John Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1923 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1923 Registration Place: Woollahra, New South Wales Registration number: 7437 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Janet Sarah Kirkpatrick Name: Janet Sarah Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1945 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John Hunter Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1945 Registration Place: Waverley, New South Wales Registration number: 6016
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GlasgowLass
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3 Feb 2013 14:08 |
John Hunter Kirkpatrick death notice He was Thomas's brother! He was 82yrs of age, youngest son of Robert Kilpatrick of Closeburn, Dumfries. his house was called TYRNON! http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15295310?searchTerm= john hunter kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-decade=191
The people disputing their uncle's will are children of two brothers of the deceased,Adam Brown Kilpatrick who were: Thomas and John Hunter Kilpatrick. This places 3 Kilpatrick brothers in OZ
John Hunter Kirkpatrick:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about John H Kirkpatrick Name: John H Kirkpatrick Spouse Name: Margaret Jones Marriage Date: 1855 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Sofala, New South Wales Registration Year: 1855 Volume Number: V Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick Name: Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick Birth Date: 1872 Father's Name: John Hunter Kirkpatrick Mother's Name: Margaret Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1872 Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales Registration number: 5355 Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Roger H Kirkpatrick Name: Roger H Kirkpatrick Spouse Name: Eliza J Guest Marriage Date: 1913 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Mosman, New South Wales Registration Year: 1913 Registration number: 2175 Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Roger H Kirkpatrick Name: Roger H Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1930 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1930 Registration Place: Peak Hill, New South Wales Registration number: 7532
1930 death announcement for Roger confirms his father was from Dumfries:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16664238?searchTerm= john hunter kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-category=Family+Notices
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3 Feb 2013 13:54 |
I think I have worked this out... The deceased person and his disputed will refers to Adam Brown Kirkpatrick who died 22 Jun 1908 age 87yrs. He was the 5th son of Robert Kilpatrick of Closeburn, Dumfries. He appears to be unmarried. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14939252?searchTerm=kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-decade=190|||l-year=1908|||l-category=Family+Notices
Unless my maths is out (again) the deceased was the brother of Thomas who emigrated in 1839. It looks like his nieces and nephews are seeking their right as beneficiaries, but I am not sure if all of them are Thomas's kids? Were there other children of Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter in Australia?
Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick seems to be the son of John Hunter Kilpatrick.... I wonder if John Hunter Kilpatrick was the son of Thomas ( b 1810) , or am I right to suspect that he is another brother born in Dumfries? Will check! Edit: Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John H Kirkpatrick Name: John H Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1911 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Robert*** Mother's Name: Janet** Registration Year: 1911 Registration Place: Mosman, New South Wales Registration number: 15471
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MarieCeleste
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3 Feb 2013 12:41 |
Following on from the above article about the estate, there was a decision reached a few days later. Summary:
"His Honor, in giving judgment, held, after reviewing the facts and authorities bearing on the questions at issue, that the estate must be divided into four parts - one for the executors of J. H. Kirkpatrick, one for the children or issue of Thomas Kirkpatrick, one for the children or issue of Robert Kirkpatrick, and one for the children or issue of Mrs. Twaddell; costs to come out of the estate."
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GlasgowLass
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3 Feb 2013 12:30 |
Other children born to Robert Kilpatrick and Janet Hunter:
Helen Welsh Kirkpatrick b 26 Mar 1808 Tynron, Dumfriesshire James Kilpatrick b 7 May 1812 Tynron, Dumfriesshire
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MarieCeleste
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3 Feb 2013 12:16 |
That's interesting, Anne - perhaps the article I found is right as one of the brothers is Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick.
We really need some feedback from Megan.
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GlasgowLass
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3 Feb 2013 12:13 |
The 1839 emigration data says Thomas's parents were Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter.
name: Thomas Kirkpatrick gender: Male baptism/christening date baptism/christening place: , TYNRON, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND birth date: 01 Apr 1810 birthplace: , Tynron, Dumfries, Scotland death date name note: race: father's name:Robert Kirkpatrick father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name:Janet Hunter mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number:C11852-2 system origin:
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3 Feb 2013 11:39 |
Not too sure that the above two posts are about the same lady that Megan is researching but will leave in case they are connected.
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3 Feb 2013 11:32 |
If it's the correct one then she's mentioned in this article from the Sydney Morning Herald Saturday 11 May 1912 :
A WILL CASE.
Mr. E. M. Betts, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, Blayney, by their agents, Messrs. Weaver and Allworth, appeared for the plaintiffs; Mr. Coffey, instructed by Messrs. Reid and Reid, for the defendants, R. H. Kirkpatrick and J. Stephen; Mr. Hinton, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for Mrs. Beddie; Mr. Bonney, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for A. D. Kirkpatrick; Mr. Wickham, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for J. L. Whitmill; and Mr. Murray-Prior, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for Miss Twaddell.
The plaintiffs were Campbell Ferguson and James Delahunt Matthews; and the defendants Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick, station manager, Buckungong; James Stephen, bank manager, Albury; Theophila Jane Beddie, Shaw; Archibald David Kirkpatrick, tramway employee, Newtown; John Loudon Whitmill, grocer, Parkes; and Jane Twaddell, Forbes.
This was an originating summons in which interpretation of the will of the late Adam Kirkpatrick, storekeeper, Blayney, was sought, the plaintiffs claiming to be the surviving executors, and the defendants claiming to represent the beneficiaries under the will.
It was set out that the testator died on June 18, 1908, and by his will of February 4, 1896, and a codicil of January 7, 1903, bequeathed his property, after payment of debts, to his brothers and sisters in equal shares. If any of them predeceased him their children were to inherit their parent's share. He directed that the children of two of his deceased brothers should inherit as heirs of their fathers. It was stated that the claims of a large number of relatives were involved. The Court was asked how the estate was to be apportioned. The amount involved was estimated at about £350.
His Honor reserved his decision.
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MarieCeleste
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3 Feb 2013 11:23 |
Hello Megan, what is your connection to Theophila? Do you know anything of her later life?
Could this be her marriage?
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Theophila Jane Kirkpatrick Spouse Name: Wm Bedddte Marriage Date: 1881 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Carcoar, New South Wales Registration Year: 1881 Registration number: 3449
and death?
Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
Name: Theophilia Jane Beddie Death Age: 88 Birth Date: abt 1853 Death Date: 26 Jul 1941 Cemetery: Carcoar Cemetery Location: Cowra, New South Wales
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2013 10:23 |
Janeet Kirkpatrick Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 christening 12 Mar 1848 Cook, New South Wales, Australia residence New South Wales, Australia parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Ellen Dunnage
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3 Feb 2013 10:22 |
Robert Kirkpatrick Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 christening 07 Feb 1841 St. Andrews Scots Church, Sydney, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia residence New South Wales, Australia parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Ellen
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3 Feb 2013 10:21 |
Agnes Kirkpatrick Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 christening 16 Sep 1845 Cook County, New South Wales, Australia residence New South Wales, Australia parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Dunnage
Mary Kirkpatrick Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 christening 23 Sep 1850 St Andrews Scots Church, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia residence New South Wales, Australia parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Dunnage
Thomas Kirkpatrick Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981 christening 12 Jan 1851 Goulburn, Argyle, New South Wales, Australia residence New South Wales, Australia parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Kirkpatrick
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Megan
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3 Feb 2013 04:00 |
thank you, this is very helpful
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3 Feb 2013 03:49 |
?? Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Ellen Kirkpatrick Name: Ellen Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1884 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: John D Registration Year: 1884 Registration Place: Carcoar, New South Wales Registration number: 7570
Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007 about Ellen Dunnage Kirkpatrick Name: Ellen Dunnage Kirkpatrick Death Date: 20 May 1884 Cemetery: Lyndhurst Cemetery Cemetery Location: Lyndhurst, New South Wales Additional Information Available: More Information Is Available From Cowra Family History Group Inc. Po Box 495 Cowra Nsw 2794
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3 Feb 2013 03:31 |
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Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Thomas Kirkpatrick Name: Thomas Kirkpatrick Death Date: 1895 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Robert Registration Year: 1895 Registration Place: Grenfell, New South Wales Registration number: 8612 New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 about Thomas Kirkpatrick Name: Thomas Kirkpatrick Birth Year: abt 1811 Age: 28 Gender: Male Arrival Date: 28 May 1839 Vessel Name: Formosa Origin Location: Tinneran, Dumfrieshire
Son of Robert ...Farmer and mother Janet New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 about Ellen Kirkpatrick Name: Ellen Kirkpatrick Birth Year: abt 1817 Age: 22 Gender: Female Arrival Date: 28 May 1839 Vessel Name: Formosa Children's Names: John It looks like it says daughter of John Dunnage...Gardener and janet... needlewoman
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Megan
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3 Feb 2013 02:18 |
Theophila may have been born in Australia. DOB 17/02/1853
Her parents are Thomas Kirkpatrick and Helen Dunnage.
I would be happy to have any information on any of these people
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