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This could make some sort of sense. as I was told when very young of a Uncle who moved to Australia, but never knew of a brother of my Father.



Len

For info a tree on Ancestry has one of the siblings migrating to Australia

Douglas Savill Ogden
Birth 7 Jul 1921 in London, England
Death in Sydney, Australia

Yes I found them. three Uncles and a Aunt I never knew I had. I am just wondering why. as my Grandmother was also a widow I did a check on her too and think there may be three possibles from that side too.


Len

The three possible other siblings

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Ogden Lilian D Gates Hackney 1b 734

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Ogden Victor G Gates Hackney 1b 607

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Ogden Douglas S Gates Hackney 1b 887

William 1917 to 1999 must of been my half Uncle my dads half brother. Never knew he had half brothers and a sister.

Len

A child of William and Emily

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Ogden William R Gates Hackney 1b 687

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about William Roland Ogden
Name: William Roland Ogden
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1917
Date of Registration: Jun 1999
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Register Number: B63F
District and Subdistrict: 4081B
Entry number: 32

Same name as the father so it looks correct to me.

where are you coming at this from Len?

Many many thanks for all your time and effort.

I will look into these.

Regards
Len

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Rowland Ogden
Name: William Rowland Ogden
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1892
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 562 (click to see others on page)

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Rowland Ogden
Name: William Rowland Ogden
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Nov 1891 >>>1892
Father's Name: Thomas Ogden
Mother's Name: Bertha Ogden
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapton Park All Saints
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

There is a tree on ancestry that also says William Roland Ogden married Emily Gates then married Elizabeth Smith

If you search births on FreeBMD for the name Ogden with mother's name Gates you will find four possible children born in Hackney

1911 England Census
about William Ogden
Name: William Ogden
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clapton
Civil parish: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 14 The Crescent, Station Rd, Walthamstow
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Apprentice Carpenter
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 247
Piece: 9677
Household Members: Name Age
Bertha Ogden 47
Bertha Ogden 23
Thomas Ogden 21
William Ogden 19
Fanny Ogden 11
John Ogden 15
Edward Ogden 8
Louisa Stray 32
Louis Stray 5

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Wiliam R Ogden
Name: Wiliam R Ogden
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 304

?? Not seeing a William B Ogden born in the right area to fit this marriage so it could be mistranscribed

Name: OGDEN, William B
Registration district: [?] West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1915
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name Gates
Volume no: [?] 4A
Page no: [?] 546

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Name: GATES, Emily
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1915
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Ogden
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 546


Death

Name: OGDEN, Emily
Registration district: [?] Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1921
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:29
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 597

Thanks for look up far too late for me. William R Ogden was my grandfather lived in London, and was widowed when he married in 1922, was trying to find a previous Marriage.

Many Thanks Len

1976 Brent.
Prob living peope.

What s your connection to them please?

(Afaf AL-khayyal)

I found a marriage between William R Ogden and a name of Khayyal in London.
Could anyone find any info on this.

Kind Regards

Len