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Great Grand Parents in Antrim

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David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 16:07


I wonder if some one's willing to tell me more of my GGF & GGN Francis Irvine & his wife Roanna nee unknown.

They were the parents of Samuel Irvine b1874 - d1940
And Samuel Irvine was the Father of Samuel Irvine b1918 - d1990
And Samuel Jr is the Father of me,David Irvine b1945

Samuel seniors wife was Sarah McLarnon
Fracis' wife was Rosanna

These good people were living in and around Belfast.
I live in England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Feb 2013 16:10

1901 and 1911 census are online at

National Archives: Census of Ireland 1901/1911


www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

safc

safc Report 6 Feb 2013 16:13

????

groom's name: Francis Irvine
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Rosanna Galloway
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 18 Aug 1864
marriage place: Ballylinny, Ant, Ireland
groom's father's name: Francis Irvine
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Samuel Galloway
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M70231-2
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101462

safc

safc Report 6 Feb 2013 16:14

name: Samuel Irvine
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place: DOAGH, ANT, IRE
birth date: 19 May 1874
birthplace: Doagh, Ant, Ire
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Francis Irvine
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Rose Ann Galloway
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C70155-7
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 255899
reference number: p17 ln134

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 16:35


Thank you safc.
I have been following your lead to Family Search.
Seems there two Francis Irvines (Ervine)
Either I have found another generation or the dates I had to use were in error

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Feb 2013 16:35

Other children to this couple....

Margaret 1865
Agnes 1867
Samuel 1874
Thomas 1877
Rosanna 1881...

Birth/Baptisms Reg Ballylinney/Doagh/Ballynure

All on family search.

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 16:38


I'm almost certain that the Samuel 1874 was my Grand Father
He named his daughter,my Father's elder sister Rose

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Feb 2013 16:43

Must be some other children between 1867-1874.

The Couple married...as per date shown on earlier thread.

Presbyterian Church,Ballylinny Parish,Antrim,Ireland

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 6 Feb 2013 17:15

Am I looking at the right family here?
Samuel Irvine and Sarah Margaret McLarnon who married in Belfast 1910?

If so, Samuel b 1874 must have been married before because Samuel jnr on this return was born circa 1908 and is not from his marriage with Sarah Margaret McLarnon
Samuel Irvine married Sarah Margaret McLarnon in Belfast 1910.
They appear on the 1911 census at 2 Osbourne Street, Duncairn, Antrim.
The census confirms that they were married less than 1yr
Both Samuel Snr and Samuel jnr are Methodist yet wife Sarah Margaret is Church of Ireland and.... Sarah Margaret has NO children born or living.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001422590/

Can you confirm that I am looking at the correct family?
Are you certain of your dates as originally posted?

EDIT:
I put the 1910 marriage onfo into a search on Rootsireland and can confirm that the father of the groom was called FRANCIS IRVINE

Anne

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 17:50


Your'e looking at the correct family,my Grand Parents.
I was aware of the child,died in infancy
May have been born out of wedlock as I am aware of no earlier marriage for Samuel Irvine b1874 - 1940

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 6 Feb 2013 17:55

I have worked this out.
The child on the 1911 census died in 1913 and the name was reused for a 2nd child in 1918.
I don't know who was this 1907 child's mother.

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
about Samuel Galloway Irvine
Name: Samuel Galloway Irvine
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration district: Belfast
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 188
FHL Film Number: 101071

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
about Samuel Galway Irvine
Name: Samuel Galway Irvine
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Death Age: 6
Registration district: Belfast
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 178
FHL Film Number: 0101605

3 children only on RootsIreland for Samuel and Sarah

Rosanna b 1912
Sarah b 1915
Samuel Galloway/ Galway b 1918

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 18:05


The reused name Ann was given to my Father Samuel Galway Irvine b1918 - d1990

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 18:07


That fact that it was reused suggested to me that Samuel b1907 was born out of wedlock,but I may be wrong.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Feb 2013 18:21

This appears to be Francis Roseann and daughter 1901...note address.

Residents of a house 7 in Osborne Street (Duncairn Ward, Antrim)
Irvine Rosanna 20 Female Daughter Methodist Ballyclare, Co Antr Pinafore Sticher Read write Irish Not Married -
Irvine Francis 65 Male Head of Family Methodist Ballyclare, Co Antr Labourer Cannot read Irish Married -
Irvine Rosanna 55 Female Wife Methodist

1911 They are living No 33 but Rosanna is not with them.

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 18:30


thank you Eringobragh.
Same street where Samuel and Sarah lived,before Arosa Parade

When Father was born in 1918 Roseann may have helped Sarah

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Feb 2013 19:00

David...It would have been helpful and saved on members time if you had continued with a previous thread where you have most of the info.we have supplied....

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1294945

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 19:10


I apologise Eringobragh
The pc I was using some time ago was compromised and I got rid of it,without backing up the important bits.
Sorry if I have inconvenienced any one.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 6 Feb 2013 20:50

David,
Whilst it's possible Samuel G Irvine 1907-1913 was possibly born out of wedlock, the 1911 census info shows he is not Sarah's son.
At 1911, she had not given birth to any children at all.

I am not sure if Samuel snr was his father.
I put the info into another search on rootsireland.
The childs birth or baptism is there, but it doesn't match to a father called Samuel, nor does it match to a mother called Sarah.

David

David Report 6 Feb 2013 20:57

That is a mystery Anne
Thank you for looking.
Perhaps it belonged one of my GF's sisters?
Not impossible.

I only started my family tree after both parants died and I got the initial information from birth,marriage and death certificates.

David

David Report 7 Feb 2013 21:12


Thank you again Anne,Eringobrach and safc