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KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:19

I am trying to trace the ancestors of my great great Grand Mother Mary Collinson 1822. She was married to my GG Grand Father John Benson and had 7 children, Henry, Mary, Suzanne, Jessie, Gertrude, George, and William. I believe they lived in East Butterwick but then possibly moved to Hull.

I have been given information of a Mary Collinson 1822 who was born in Kirstall and later married a Hull man named John Riley and had 5 children, Fredrick, Lebron, Emily and Thomas.

Is there a connection?

Can anyone help?

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:25

Is this her?

1851 England Census about Mary Benson
Name: Mary Benson
[Mary Collinson]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Edwd Benson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Of husband ( Police Constable)

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 2363
Folio: 950
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
John Edwd Benson 35 born: East Butterwick, Lincolnshire,
Mary Benson 29
Harry Edwd Benson 5 born: East Butterwick, Lincolnshire,
John Thomas Benson 3 born: Hull
Mary Francas Benson 11 Mo

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:27

This certainly looks like her Catherine

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:28

1861 England Census about John Edd Benson
Name: John Edd Benson
[John Edward Benson]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Benson
Gender: Male
Where born: E Buttermere, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Of husband (Police Officer)

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Piece: 3597
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Edd Benson 47
Mary Benson 31
William W Benson 18
Henry Edd Benson 16
John Thomas Benson 13
Mary Frances Benson 11
Sarah Benson 8 (Susanna)
Jesse Sarah Benson 6
................................................

1871 England Census about John Edward Benson
Name: John Edward Benson
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Benson
Gender: Male
Where born: East Butterwick, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 4796
Folio: 95
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
John Edward Benson 56
Mary Benson 49
William W Benson 28
Jessie Benson 16
George S Benson 9
Sarah M Benson 6
...............................................

1881 England Census about John E. Benson
Name: John E. Benson
[John Edward Benson]
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Benson
Gender: Male
Where born: Butterwick, Lincoln, England
Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Havelock Ter
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Police Constable Superannuated
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4778
Folio: 51
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John E. Benson 66
Mary Benson 58 born: Wakefield, Yorkshire
Jessie S. Benson 25
George S. Benson 20
Sarah M. Benson 16

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:31

Yes I'm sure this is her.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:31

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about John Edward Benson
Name: John Edward Benson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 183
.................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about John Edward Benson
Name: John Edward Benson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1842
Registration district: Kingston upon Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 22
Page Number: 218
Amongest those on the same page:- Mary Collinson Jul-Aug-Sep 1842 Kingston upon Hull Yorkshire East Riding

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:33

This looks correct, thank you.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:33

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Mary Collinson
Name: Mary Collinson
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1822
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Baptism Date: 5 Jan 1823
Father's Name: John Collinson
Occupation: Tailor
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Collinson
Address:- New Road
........................................................................

She died in 1899 as Riley

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Mary Riley
Name: Mary Riley
Birth Year: abt 1823
Parish: Kirkstall, St Stephen
Burial Date: 17 Jun 1899
Burial Age: 76

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Feb 2013 21:40

This is the other Mary. More than 5 children though.

1861 census transcription details for: Church Street, Headingley, Kirkstall, Leeds
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 3354
Folio: 45
Page: 16
Reg. District: Hunslet
Sub District: 2 Kirkstall
Parish: Headingley
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Kirkstall
City/Municipal Borough: Leeds
Address: Church Street, Headingley, Kirkstall, Leeds
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RILEY, John Head Married M 54 1807 Painter And Paper...Employing 3 Men
Leeds, Yorkshire
RILEY, Mary Wife Married F 39 1822
Leeds, Yorkshire
RILEY, Thomas C Son M 15 1846 Painter
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, Riley Labron Son M 13 1848 Painter
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, John E Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, Frederick Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, Harry Son M 11 1850 Scholar
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, Lavinia Daughter F 2 1859
Kirkstall, Yorkshire
RILEY, Emily S Daughter F 0 (7M) 1861
Kirkstall, Yorkshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:40

There is a Mary Collinson that married a John Riley:-

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about John Riley
Name: John Riley
Age: Full Age
Bachelor
Occupation: Painter
Marriage or Bann Date: 15 Apr 1843
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Father's Name: John Riley
Occupation:- Shop Keeper
Spouse's Name: Mary Collinson
Spinster
Address:- West Street
Spouse's Father's Name: John Collinson
Occupation:- Tailor

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:42

Are these two different people?

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:47

They certainly look to be two completely different people. She couldn't be in two different places at the same time.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:50

This looks to be the other baptism:-

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Mary Collinson
Name: Mary Collinson
Parish: Whitkirk, St Mary
Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1821
Father's Name: John Collinson
Occupation:- Carpenter
Mother's name: Mary Collinson
..................................................

1841 England Census about Mary Collinson
Name: Mary Collinson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Wakefield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Carpenter J (probably joiner)

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1272
Book: 2
Folio: 17
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Collinson 8 - (age is obviously wrong)
Mary Collinson 55
Mary Collinson 20 - dress m

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 21:53

Thank you, that makes sense.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 21:58

So 2 Mary Collinsons born abt. the same time and place and both with father named John, but one had mother elizabeth and the other one Mary.
Your Mary Collinson looks to be the daughter of John (occupation Carpenter) and Mary.

You really need the marriage certificate to confirm.

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 22:09

Thanks for help.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2013 22:21

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
xxxx Benson Susanna Hull 9d 279
xxxx HUTTY James Hull 9d 279
LOWE John William Hull 9d 279
Toft Alice Hull 9d 279
............................................

1881 England Census about Susanna Hutty
Name: Susanna Hutty
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Hutty
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull
Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Spencer Sq
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4769
Folio: 84
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hutty 25
Susanna Hutty 27
Fred. Hutty 2
.................................

1891 England Census about Susannah Hutty
Name: Susannah Hutty
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Hutty
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
Town: Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3937
Folio: 32
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hutty 35
Susannah Hutty 37
Fred Hutty 12
.....................................

1901 England Census about Susannah Hutty
Name: Susannah Hutty
[Susannah Benson]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Mary Benson
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 239
Piece: 4499
Folio: 20
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Susannah Hutty 46 Widow (Landlady of Lodging House)

Mary Benson 79 Widow born: abt 1822 Huddersfield, Yorkshire,

George Berkeley 26

KDB

KDB Report 7 Feb 2013 22:38

Thank you