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Thomas Avenell Born 1883 London

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Caroline

Caroline Report 8 Feb 2013 16:02

Thomas married Fanny Greenaway and emigrated to Australia in 1911. No trace of him after arrival. It appears Fanny died in 1950 in Point Clare, Gosford, New South Wales. Anyone any idea what happened to Thomas

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Feb 2013 16:09

Who registered Fanny's death?

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Feb 2013 16:17

trees on ancestry have no death for him

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Feb 2013 16:38

(Outgoing Passenger)

Name: Mr Thos AVENELL
Date of departure: 13 October 1911
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1883 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Artist
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 10
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage
Mrs Fanny AVENELL Page 2 of 10
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
MARATHON
118184
P J Collins
Aberdeen
Brisbane, Australia
7357
3983
387

Chris :)

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Feb 2013 17:40

A tree on Ancestry has his parents as Henry and Jane, in which case this could be his death:


New South Wales deaths
17211/1950 AVENELL THOMAS (parents) HENRY JANE
(district) BALMAIN

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Feb 2013 19:17

Don't know if this is him - no other info given:

Sydney and New South Wales, Sands Street Index, 1861-1930

Name: Thomas Avenell
Year: 1925
City: Petersham

Address 26 Corunna Road.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Feb 2013 11:57

Hello Caroline and welcome to the Community boards.


There is another member on this site who has Thomas in his tree. It may be worth contacting him to see if he has any further information.

Simply click on Search (above) and then on Search All Trees - enter Thomas's details and you will see what I mean. Cx

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 9 Feb 2013 22:15

Hi Caroline,

Have found Fanny Eliza Avenell in the Australian Cemetery Index:

Name: Fannie E Avenell
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1887
Death Date: 7 Nov 1950
Cemetery: Point Clare
Section: Church of England
Cemetery Location: Point Clare, New South Wales

Also found her on the Outward Passenger List

Name: Mrs Fanney Avenell
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 14 Oct 1911
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Marathon
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Marathon' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Aberdeen Line
Official Number: 118184
Master: P J Collins

Also on the Australian Electoral Roll

Name: Fanny Eliza Avenell
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Lang
Subdistrict: Petersham

Thomas is not listed with her on the 1930 roll. Fanny's occupation is listed as shop assistant.

Name: Fanny Avenell
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Dalley
Subdistrict: Petersham

Thomas not listed with Fanny. Fanny's occupation is home duties.

Name: Fanny Eliza Avenell
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Robertson
Subdistrict: Toronto

Thomas is not with her again on this one. Fanny's occupation is listed as home duties.

This is Thomas on the Passenger List

Name: Mr Thos Avenell
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1883
Departure Date: 14 Oct 1911
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Marathon
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Marathon' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Aberdeen Line
Official Number: 118184
Master: P J Collins

Is it possible that Fanny and Thomas divorced/separated as I found a Thomas James Avenell residing in Corrimal, NSW and his occupation is listed as a brush hand painter (another term for artist). He is also listed with a Dulcie Louise Avenell (possibly wife of Albert as she is listed with Albert in the 1954 roll, occupation listed as home duties) and Albert Hilton Avenell (possibly son, occupation listed as miner). It would appear that Thomas may have died or oved on to place unknown between 1949-1954.

Have been unable to find a death record for Thomas.

There is also 2 listings for a D Avenell in the Whitepages located in NSW. I will PM these to you.

Hope this is of some assistance to you

Regards
Vanessa

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 9 Feb 2013 22:58

Have posted a possible death for Thomas in 1950 above.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Feb 2013 08:30

1911
AVENELL, Henry Head Widower M 58 1853 Engineer Fitter Wilts Highworth
AVENELL, Thomas Son Single M 28 1883 House Decorator Middlesex Millwell
EDWARDS, Ellen Mother Widow F 80 1831 Farringdon Berks
WILLIAMS, Louise Niece Single F 29 1882 No Occupation North Hants Byfield
WILLIAMS, George Nephew Single M 24 1887 Picture Frame Maker Angebury Alurfraw
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2697
Reference: RG14PN2697 RG78PN92 RD28 SD5 ED11 SN111
Registration District: Greenwich
Sub District: Greenwich East
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Greenwich
Address: 10 Annandale Road Greenwich S E
County: London

1901
AVENELL, Henry Head Widower M 48 1853 Fitter (R G F Woolwich)
Highworth, Wiltshire
AVENELL, Thomas Son M 18 1883 Apprentice To Painter & Decorator
Millwall, London
EDWARDS, Ellen Mother Widow F 70 1831 Housekeeper
Farringdon, Berkshire
Piece: 537
Folio: 155
Page: 3
Registration District: Greenwich
Civil Parish: Greenwich
Municipal Borough:
Address: 179, Greenwich Road, Greenwich
County: London

1891
AVENELL, Henry Head Widower M 38 1853 Fitter
Highworth, Wiltshire
AVENELL, Thomas Son M 8 1883
Millwall, London
EDWARDS, Ellen Mother Widow F 60 1831 House Keeper
Faringdon, Berkshire
BORRIE, John Nephew M 7 1884
Hertford
Piece: 509
Folio: 53
Page: 6
Registration District: Greenwich
Civil Parish: Greenwich
Municipal Borough:
Address: 100, Greenwich Road, Greenwich
County: London


Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------------
AVENELL Henry Wandsworth 1d 672
BORRIE Jane Louisa Wandsworth 1d 672


Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Avenell Jane Louisa 33 Greenwich 1d 573


Chris :)


Caroline

Caroline Report 11 Feb 2013 11:56

Thank you very much for all the replies. Thomas was the nephew of my great grandmother Annie Adelaide Avenell. His father Henry was always referred to by my mother as a bachelor so it was a surprise finding him at all. We do know from Ancestry trees he appears to have had a daughter in Australia called Beryl Helen Avenell but have so far been unable to make contact with her descendants and the tree does not show any data for him other than his year of birth. As Fanny and Thomas married just before they sailed for Australia maybe divorce is the answer. We will certainly look into this. Once again - thank you

Valerie

Valerie Report 13 Feb 2013 06:04

Hi Caroline

NSW/BMD (on-line) has deaths 1950 both Fanny & Thomas Avenell.
NSW/BMD has Beryl Helen Avenell m Edward Haig MYERS in 1942.
Also shows Beryl Helen MYERS d 1978 (parents Thomas & Fanny E)

NSW/BMD has birth of Henry Christopher Avenell b1912 (parents Thomas & Fanny E).

The 'NSW State Library' on-line has an 'Ask a Librarian' service.. they will chek their electoral rolls...... past & present.
They may also check newspaper death notice/s of Beryl Myers (1978) for family names. (they may also check on Fanny & Thomas's deaths in 1950)
Valerie (WAus)