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Carol

Carol Report 8 Feb 2013 21:07

could any one help please as iv just started with my family tree and not sure where to look next ,iv used some credits but seem to be stuck as to find my great granmother mary leonard.
my grandad (son of mary leonard) was james patrick leonard born in hull in march 1915 and died at sea on october 23rd 1943 ,my great grandmothers name mary leonard and also great stepgrandad`s name james patrick boyne was on the death naval records for my grandad.
i require any information about mary leonard and james patrick boyne and any siblings of my grandad would be most grateful .
thank you
carol

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Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Feb 2013 21:10


Marriage

James Boyne - Leonard -Jan-Feb-Mar 1915- Hull Yorkshire East Riding
Mary Leonard- Boyne - Jan-Feb-Mar 1915 Hull Yorkshire East Riding


The marriage certificate will tell you their ages and father's names

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Feb 2013 21:15

EDITTED in case still living.

There are some births on freebmd for Boyne / Leonard but in Leeds not Hull and quite a while after the marriage so may not be your family.

To view simply enter both surnames only

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 8 Feb 2013 21:15

From the Commonwealth War Graves site............

LEONARD, JAMES PATRICK
Rank:Leading Seaman
Service No:D/SSX 18313
Date of Death:23/10/1943
Age:27
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy
H.M.S. Charybdis
Panel ReferencePanel 78. Column 3.
MemorialPLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Mary Leonard, and stepson of James Patrick Boyne; husband of Grace Leonard, of Plymouth.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Feb 2013 21:26

Do you have your Grandfather's birth certificate to get his mother's maiden surname please?

If James Boyne was his step father of James Patrick Leonard then it looks like Leonard was Mary's name when she first married?


EDIT

Perhaps Mary hadn't been married before. This looks like her son's birth

Births Mar 1915 Leonard James P Leonard Hull 9d 549

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2013 21:30

His birth? Mother's maiden name Leonard, was she unmarried at time?

Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Leonard James P Leonard Hull 9d 549

Mary

Mary Report 8 Feb 2013 21:35

Mary Leonard 1885 Hull parents Michael and margaret Leonard.
1891 in Leeds
1901 Leeds Mary a ragsorter
1911 Mary a ragsorter in prison??

Mary Boyne born 1885 died leeds 1967.

Info off a tree says Mary leonard 1885 Hull had Kathleen mary leonard 12/10/1911 died in leeds,she married John Charles Clarke 1909- 1974 and had a son.

Same Mary leonard married James Boyne.

Maryb.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2013 21:38

I agree with Mike that you ought to buy that marriage certificate to get her father's name.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2013 21:42

The Kathleen Mary Leonard that Maryb mentioned? Mother's maiden name also Leonard:

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Leonard Kathleen M Leonard Sculcoates 9d 371

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Feb 2013 21:54

1911

Name: Mary Leonard
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Prisoner
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Ragsorter (Paper Mill)
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 29-31
Piece: 28686


1901

Name: Mary Leonard
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Michael Leonard
Mother's Name: Margaret Leonard
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 188
Piece: 4217
Folio: 146
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Leonard 50 Plasterer's Labourer, b. Ireland, Sligo
Margaret Leonard 42 b. Hull
Mary Leonard 16 Rag Sorter
Thomas Leonard 13 b. Leeds
Patrick Leonard 9 b. Leeds
Martin Leonard 6 b. Leeds

1891

Name: Mary Leonard
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Michael Leonard
Mother's Name: Margaret Leonard
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peters
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3684
Folio: 95
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Leonard 42
Margaret Leonard 37
John Leonard 10
Mary Leonard 6
Tom Leonard 3
Tom Hanson 51 Lodger
Luiza Hanson 49 Lodger



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Feb 2013 21:59

1911

Name: Michael Leonard
Age in 1911: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sligo, Ireland
Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Burrell Terrace Shannon St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 26924
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Leonard 63
Margaret Leonard 57
Thomas Leonard 23
Patrick Leonard 19


Married 34 years, 7 children born, 5 living and 2 had died.

Mary

Mary Report 8 Feb 2013 22:10

James Boyne??
1911 44,Eastfield St leeds
James Boyne 1852 York single rag gatherer.

James Boyne 1852 died Leeds 1929??

Maryb.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Feb 2013 22:20

The transcript of the 1911 that Mary refers to.

Name: James Boyne
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: York, England
Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Eastfield Street
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Rag Gatter Chaler
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 26923
Household Members: Name Age

Mary Boyne 46 Widow, married 15 years, 4 children born, 4 living, b. York
Agnes Boyne 21 Daughter b. Leeds
Leonard Boyne 12 Son b. Leeds
John Boyne 7 Son, b. Leeds
James Boyne 59
Ellen Chadford 43 Sister, Married , b. York

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Feb 2013 22:29

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1901

Name: Leonard Boyne
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ellen Boyne
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Alban the Martyr
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 4224
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Boyne 60
Janet Boyne 49 <<< James, son on image
Mary Boyne 36 Daughter, SINGLE
Agnes Boyne 11 Granddaughter
Leonard Boyne 2 Grandson
James Oawford 4 No relationship given & looks like Crawford on image


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Feb 2013 22:55

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Look at the above site for possible half-siblings for your g/father.

Enter the surnames in the 'search' boxes...........click on'find'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Feb 2013 22:58

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Edward Boyne
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1923
Date of Registration: Feb 2001
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: N17C
District and Subdistrict: 0921N
Entry number: 235

Carol

Carol Report 10 Feb 2013 14:03

wow what can i say thank you very much for all you have done for me ,i need to take a proper look at all this information a bit later today ,i dont have my granfathers cert im afraid only read on the naval site of his death to get his mothers name and thats all i had to go by ...carol x