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Sydney Smith b Preston 1906

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Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 22:55

Syd was my Mums brother, I think he was on a trawler at Fleetwood, Mum said he died at sea but as it obviously upset her i didn't ask any more questions at the time, and of course now is too late :(

Has anyone any ideas of how i can begin my search please.

Thanks for reading x


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Feb 2013 22:57

What is it you are looking for Mary?
Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Feb 2013 23:00

When was the death supposed to have occurred?

Was Sydney his only forename?

Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 23:01

Sorry, it does look vague ! i know nothing of Syd after the 1911 census, i can't find his death because i don't know where or when he died, wondered if anyone knew where i could find out ?

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Feb 2013 23:04

Was his death supposed to have been when he was fishing?

There may be records in Fleetwood, if that was definitely his home port.

Was he married?

Didn't your mother even say whether the death was before or after WW2?

Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 23:04

I googled fleetwood trawlers and have joined a small site, but can't ask till i've been accepted, and a lot of the answers are about specific ships

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Feb 2013 23:06

Do you know his exact birth date? If he died England/Wales between 1970 ans 2006 this can be used to search for record of a death. But I suspect you believe this happened earlier?
Have you tried looking for matches with other members on here?
Jan

Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 23:07

Hi Reggie, sorry i know nothing, even his brothers gdaughter knows nothing about him, i don't think he'd married, i'm sure (!) we would have known.

Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 23:12

Hi Jan, I'm sure it will have been a long time ago, not tried matches, will do that

Mary

Mary Report 9 Feb 2013 23:23

Apologies Syd dob - ond 1905

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 9 Feb 2013 23:55

this the only Syd smith born Preston in 1905. You could checkif it is the right one by looking for your mother on the same site to see if the mmn co-incides. Though tjhere is a possibilty as this one had mmn Smith she got married before your mother was born

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SMITH Sydney North Preston Preston SMITH NP/6/64

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 Feb 2013 23:56

for reference....is this the correct family?



1911 England Census about Sydney Smith
Name: Sydney Smith
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 66 Victoria St Preston Lancashire
Occupation: School
Registration district: Preston
Registration District Number: 476
Sub-registration district: North Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 25275
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Smith 44
Florence Smith 20
Winnie Smith 18
John Smith 17
Elsie Smith 15
Beatrice Smith 14
Gordon Smith 12
George Smith 11
Albert Smith 8
Lily Smith 6
Sydney Smith 5


not the correct family...............................

Mary

Mary Report 10 Feb 2013 00:05

Hi lancashireAnn, Syd was born ond 1905 ref 8e 489, mmn also Smith !, Moody Blue, no thats not them, 1911 census is 92 Eldon Street, f Thomas, m Rose , syd doris and fred

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 10 Feb 2013 00:20

this is the only death that was registered in Fleetwood that is close to the right age

Deaths Jun 1942 (>99%)
Smith Sydney 34 Fylde 8e 982

Mary

Mary Report 10 Feb 2013 00:55

Thank you very much lancashireAnn, at least that gives me something to work from,
thanks to all others for your input too .
mary

Flip

Flip Report 10 Feb 2013 09:12

Sidney Smith
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 92 Eldon St Preston Lanc's
Registration district: Preston
Registration District Number: 476
Sub-registration district: North Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 25279
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Smith 31
Rose Smith 29
Sidney Smith 5
Doris Smith 4
Frederick Stanley Smith 1

Married 6 years, 3 children so this looks like the marriage:

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Almond Thomas Preston 8e 1158
SMITH Rose Preston 8e 1158 <<<<<<<<
SMITH Thomas Preston 8e 1158 <<<<<<<<<<
WILDING Annie Preston 8e 1158

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Feb 2013 09:20

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1256984

(above seems to relate)

Chris :)

Mary

Mary Report 10 Feb 2013 13:50

Thanks Flip, i do have that info, since 2011, i have contact with Fred Smiths Granddaughter, who has only a Greataunt on her Grandmas side left , ( :(( ) and knows very little of the family history, and knows nothing about Syd either .

Thanks Chris . have sorted the mistake with wignall , which was one of those strange coincidences, as my parents close friends when i was small were Mr and Mrs Wignall,

Once again, i'm Very grateful for all your help.

Flip

Flip Report 10 Feb 2013 14:19

Unless you come up with something on the Fleetwood trawlers site, it could be worth checking LANCAT (Lancashire archives catalogue) see if there is any mention of an inquest - their database is down at the moment, but they'll no doubt sort it tomorrow. Also, you could try searching 20th century newspapers for reports of his death.

Mary

Mary Report 10 Feb 2013 19:17

Thanks Flip, have joined Library to check newspapers, will try LACAT too, x