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11 Feb 2013 13:37 |
Im not too sure about this couple and would appreciate your help and opinions before sending for the birth certificate of one of the children
William Bullman b 1847 Bolton, Lancs. Lived in Sheffield, Yorks
Wife is listed as Hannah b 1847 Worksop, Notts. Lived in Sheffield, Yorks
I cannot find a marriage, which according to the 1911 census should have taken place about 1873
On the 1891 census, the couple have a visitor, Emily Hodgkinson. I am wondering if this is Hannah' sister (although there is 20 years age difference) or some other kind of relative?
I then found this marriage:
Marriages Jun 1912 ------------------------------------------------------------- BULLMAN William Hodgkinson Rotherham 9c 1228 <<<< HODGKINSON Hannah Bullman Rotherham 9c 1228 <<<< Smedley Agnes M Smith Rotherham 9c 1228 Smith John H Smedley Rotherham
Not a Sheffield marriage but Rotherham is very close. I am wondering if the couple married a tad late! They both die in the 1920's, Sheffield
I cant see a William Bullman on the 1911 census in Rotherham
Thanks in advance
Edit: I cant see any births for the above couple after the 1912 marriage
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11 Feb 2013 13:44 |
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1871
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3459 Folio: 78 Page: 32 Reg. District: Worksop Sub District: Worksop Parish: Worksop Enum. District: 9 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Carlton Road, Worksop County: Nottinghamshire
HODGKINSON, John Head M 68 1803 Nottinghamshire HODGKINSON, Hannah Wife F 62 1809 Lincolnshire >>>>>HODGKINSON, Hannah Daughter F 23 1848 Nottinghamshire HODGKINSON, Joseph Son M 20 1851 Nottinghamshire >>>>>HODGKINSON, Emily H Granddaughter F 3 1868 Nottinghamshire STORR, John Boarder M 21 1850 Derbyshire
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11 Feb 2013 13:45 |
There is a Hannah Hodgkinson born right time, right place. Only way to be certain is to buy the cert
1851 England Census about Hannah Hodgkinson Name: Hannah Hodgkinson Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Hodgkinson Mother's Name: Hannah Hodgkinson Gender: F (Female) Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Worksop Town: Worksop County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Piece: 2122 Folio: 239 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Hodgkinson 48 Hannah Hodgkinson 42 Mary Hodgkinson 20 John Hodgkinson 11 Eliza Hodgkinson 9 Harriet Hodgkinson 7 George Hodgkinson 5 Hannah Hodgkinson 3 Joseph Hodgkinson 5 Mo Andy
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11 Feb 2013 13:45 |
Possible?
Births Mar 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HODGKINSON Hannah Worksop 15 659
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11 Feb 2013 13:52 |
Choccy, thats interesting, I wonder if Emily was Hannah' daughter?
Just had a look for deaths of a William Bullman after 1912 to 1960, cant see any at the moment
I will have another root around before sending for a birth certificate
Thanks Andy & Margee
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11 Feb 2013 13:57 |
possibly -
Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bullman William 81 Sheffield 9c 489
Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bullman Hannah 76 Sheffield 9c 691
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11 Feb 2013 13:58 |
Maybe he was married to someone else, left his wife to live with Hannah, and then went on to marry her when he was free to do so?
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Choccy
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11 Feb 2013 14:14 |
haven't actually looked for the two of them on census returns, but maybe -
Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BULMAN William Pocklington 9d 132 Sapcote Mary Appolina Pocklington 9d 132
Deaths Jun 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BULMAN Mary Appollonia 67 Beverley 9d 60
EDIT - FORGET THEM - found them together in 1901!
will leave posted if only to eliminate
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11 Feb 2013 14:17 |
Thanks Ive just found that couple together in the census returns, so it rules them
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13 Feb 2013 12:42 |
I have this census for the above
1911 England Census
Name: Harry Simpson Age in 1911: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Kilbarham, Scotland Civil parish: Ecclesall County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 51 Broomspring Lane, Broon Hall Sheffield Marital Status: Married Occupation: Hotel Waiter Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Registration District Number: 509 Sub-registration district: Broomhall ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 27840 Household Members: Name Age Harry Simpson 33 Mary A E Simpson 32 Harry Simpson 2 Cyril C B Hamitton His marriage certificate states:
Marriage: 08/01/1906 Sheffield
Bride: Mary Ann Elizabeth Bullman (Daughter of the first posting on here)
Groom: Henry Simpson age 28, Hotel Waiter Father: Henry Simpson, Occ Butler (Domestic Servant)
Wit: Frank Ridge & Ada Bullman (Mary' sister)
I'm OK for info about Mary A E Bullman but need help please with Henry Simpson
The census states he was born in Scotland but I am 'pants' researching Scottish records and regions.
I would love to be able to send for a birth certificate but the name is so common and I cant find him with his father on the censuses?
Any help most welcome - thank you
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Gee
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13 Feb 2013 12:53 |
I think this is him in 1901
1901 England Census about Henry Simpson Name: Henry Simpson Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Craigbrids, Scotland Civil parish: Ecclesall Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 160 Piece: 4352 Folio: 103 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Alice Ann Wade 49 Sarah P Gregg 48 Polly Wade 23 Henry Simpson 24 William Holmes 29 George A Robinson 45
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13 Feb 2013 13:11 |
That's the one I have been working on Ginns:
1891 census transcription details for: Doncaster Road, Hooton Roberts Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3857 Folio: 39 Page: 6 Reg. District: Rotherham Sub District: Maltby Parish: Hooton Roberts Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: Hooton Roberts City/Municipal Borough: Address: Doncaster Road, Hooton Roberts County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HANDLY, Jane Head Widow F 71 1820 Carthorpe, Yorkshire HANDLY, John Son Single M 38 1853 Blacksmith Bawtry, Yorkshire SIMPSON, Henry Grandson M 14 1877 Farm Labourer Craigends, Scotland
1881 census transcription details for: Cottage, Hooton-Roberts Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 4684 Folio: 59 Page: 29 Reg. District: Rotherham Sub District: Maltby Parish: Hooton-Roberts Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Cottage, Hooton-Roberts County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HANDLEY, Benjamin Head Married M 65 1816 Colliery Weighman Chesterfield, Derbyshire HANDLEY, Jane Wife Married F 61 1820 Colliery Weighman Wife Carthorpe, Yorkshire HANDLEY, John Son Single M 28 1853 Blacksmiths Striker Bawtry, Yorkshire HANDLEY, Isabella Daughter Single F 27 1854 No Occupation Bawtry, Yorkshire HANDLEY, Maria Daughter Single F 23 1858 Dressmaker Kilnhurst, Yorkshire SIMPSON, Harry Grand Son Single M 4 1877 Craigends, Scotland
Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%) Handley Mary Jane Rotherham 9c 655 SIMPSON Henry Rotherham 9c 655
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Gee
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13 Feb 2013 13:15 |
Thanks Dea, thats a fab start, no wonder I cant find him with his father!
Any luck on the father on the censuses?
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Dea
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13 Feb 2013 13:54 |
Well, looky here!!!
1871 census transcription details for: Deighton Grove, Naburn Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 4754 Folio: 6 Page: 5 Reg. District: York Sub District: Escrick Parish: Naburn Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Deighton Grove, Naburn County: Yorkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born CLIFFORD, Henry Marcus Head M 37 1834 Germany CLIFFORD, Sarah Step-Mother F 32 1839 Nottinghamshire PRESTON, Lucy Anne Visitor F 38 1833 Yorkshire ****SIMPSON, Henry Brother M 32 1839 Scotland - NOT 'brother' but BUTLER !!!
POWELL, Charlotte Servant F 28 1843 Yorkshire ARMSTRON, Hannah Servant F 27 1844 Lincolnshire ****HANDLEY, Mary Jane Servant F 21 1850 Nottinghamshire - Under House Maid
HOPE, Mary Jane Servant F 19 1852 Yorkshire DREWETT, Samuel Servant M 39 1832 Wiltshire HALLET, Geo Servant M 53 1818
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13 Feb 2013 13:58 |
County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church St Mary (Priory) RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 07 Feb 1848 Forename Hannah Sex F FatherForename John MotherForename Hannah FatherSurname HODGKINSON MotherSurname Abode Carlton Lane FatherOccupation Boatman
County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church St Mary (Priory) RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 27 May 1868 Forename Emily Harriet Sex F FatherForename MotherForename Hannah FatherSurname MotherSurname HODGKINSON Abode Carlton Rd
(adding in case!)
Chris :)
(err!, think you know FreeReg,lol)
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Gee
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13 Feb 2013 14:28 |
Oooer.......that looks promising, thank you Dea :-D
Cheers Chris, I think Hannah married William Bullman
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Gee
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13 Feb 2013 14:43 |
Cant see Henry and Mary Jane after the marriage :-(
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