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Mother of Frances Jupp

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Unknown

Unknown Report 16 Feb 2013 19:52

Many, many thanks for all the information, much of which I did not have. I could go on from James Fry, as we are directly related and my sister-in-law has family bible, certificates, etc, but going back, especially on female side was much more difficult. Thanks again for all the help. Joan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 12:10

???

Name: Frances Fry
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1906
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 52


looks like they moved to Brentford area

Name: FRY, James
Registration district: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1904
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 70
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 50

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 12:05

1901 census transcription details for: 42, Westfield Road, Surbiton

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 667
Folio: 9
Page: 10
Reg. District: Kingston
Sub District: Surbiton
Parish: Surbiton
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Marks Surbiton
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 42, Westfield Road, Surbiton
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FRY, James Head Married M 66 1835 Milk Vendor
Isle of Wight
FRY, Frances Wife Married F 60 1841
Battersea, London
FRY, George Son Single M 24 1877 Milk Carrier
Paralyses From Birth Surbiton, Surrey
FRY, Bertram Son Single M 20 1881 Milk Carrier
Surbiton, Surrey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 12:03

1891 still born circa 1841

ensus transcription details for: Westfield Road, Kingston, Surbiton

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 612
Folio: 30
Page: 29
Reg. District: Kingston
Sub District: Kingston
Parish: Kingston
Enum. District: 21
Ecclesiastical District: St Marks
City/Municipal Borough: Kingston
Address: Westfield Road, Kingston, Surbiton
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FRY, James Head Married M 56 1835 Dairy Man
Isle of Wight
FRY, Frances Wife Married F 50 1841
Paddington, Middlesex
FRY, Arthur Son Single M 19 1872 Dairyman
Ditton, Surrey
FRY, George Son Single M 15 1876
Surbiton, Surrey
FRY, Bertram Son Single M 10 1881
Surbiton, Surrey
FRY, Sydney Son Single M 8 1883
Surbiton, Surrey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 11:52

1871 census

Name: Frances Fry
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841>>>>>
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Fry
Gender: Female
Where born: Paddington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Kingston on Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 861
Folio: 77
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fry 36
Frances Fry 30
Elizabeth Fry 10
Ellen Fry 7
Frank Fry 6
Emily Fry 4
William Fry 3
Harry Fry 4
Horace C Baxter 28
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 861; Folio: 77; Page: 51; GSU roll: 827764.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 11:49

just for our info
Name: James Fry
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Frances Jupp
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Apr 1859
Parish: Paddington St James
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Benjamin Fry
Spouse Father Name: Richard Jupp
Register Type: Parish Register

she is given as a Minor both home address's Praed Street

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Feb 2013 11:45

would she have been 15 when she married ?? ie born 1844 married 1859. Is she shown as full age or minor on the cert ?

Married at 15 not unusual my grtx2 grandmother was 15 and 3 months when she marred . her elder sister too married at15

Mary

Mary Report 16 Feb 2013 11:37

Harriet born @ 1821 Lynn norfolk to thomas wales fisherman.

1841 Kings lynn d3 .17
thomas wales 65 fishmonger born Durham norfolk (Dereham)?
Susan 45 Norfolk

1851 Christchurch marylebone D 6 |> 52
Thomas 1773 Norfolk formerley seafaring man
Susan 51 monthly nurse born norfolk

death and burial in westminster for thomas wales in 1854 age 80 = 1774.

1861 Middlesex
Thomas Wales born lynn norfolk 1833 son of Susan and Thomas.
louisa wife born marylebone
Susan Wales born Walsingham Norfolk 1796 widow and monthly nurse.

Maryb.

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Feb 2013 07:34



The 1841 census returns for Paddington are missing.


http://www.uk-family-history.com/1841-census.html


Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Feb 2013 23:48

This looks to be the Harriet in 1851 census:-

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Harriet Jupp
Name: Harriet Jupp
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Oct 1839
Father's Name: Richard Jupp
Occupation: Labourer
Mother's Name: Harriet Jupp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St James
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address:- 21 Wharf Harrow Road

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Feb 2013 23:45

Can anyone see the family in 1841?

Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Feb 2013 23:22

this marriage would go with the baptism I found:-

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard Jupp
Name: Richard Jupp
Age: Full Age
Noted as Widower
Spouse Name: Harriet Wales
Age: Full Age
Noted as Spinster
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Oct 1838
Parish: Bryanston Square St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Richard Jupp
Occuaption: Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Wales
Occupation: Fisherman
Register Type: Parish Register

One of the witnesses was Rachel Wales

Address:- 21 Wharf Paddington

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Feb 2013 23:22

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Richard Jupp
Name: Richard Jupp dower, Labourer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Harriet Wales
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Oct 1838
Parish: Bryanston Square St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Richard Jupp Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Wales Fisherman
Register Type: Parish Register



Andy

Kay????

Kay???? Report 15 Feb 2013 23:17


1838 marriage
Richard Jupp and Harriet >>>Wales.<<<<.....Marylebone.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Feb 2013 23:16

The occupation on that baptism is

Wharfinger Owner or manager of a wharf

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Feb 2013 23:12

1851 England Census
about Fanny Jupp
Name: Fanny Jupp
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Jupp
Mother's Name: Harriet Jupp
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Paddington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 1491
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Jupp 45 Carman
Harriet Jupp 30
Harriet Jupp 10
Fanny Jupp 9
Thomas Jupp 8
Alfred Jupp 6
Margaret Jupp 9 Mo

Address 19 Huntsworth Terrace

Andy


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Feb 2013 23:10

On 1859 marriage cert her father Richard is shown as a carman.

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Feb 2013 23:09

????

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Frances Jupp
Name: Frances Jupp
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1840
Father's Name: Richard Jupp
Mother's Name: Harriet Jupp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: (looks like) 21 Wharf Harrow Road
Occupation: Wharf?

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Unknown

Unknown Report 15 Feb 2013 23:07

Frances was born in Paddington, London, supposedly 1844. Father was Richard Jupp. She married James Fry 10 04 1859. Who was her mother? Cannot find Frances in 1851 census. Was Fanny a diminutive of Frances? There is a Fanny Jupp, born Paddington 1842, father Richard, in 1851 census.