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Minister James Muir Sunderland

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Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:11

Hello!

Having difficulties finding the 1841 census of Reverend James Muir
He was born abt 1800 in Scotland

He became minister in Sunderland 1831 at the Union Chapel, Coronation St


Later he married 1847 Mary Herring of Sunderland

Any ideas?
Thanks!

Andy

Andy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:16

Hi Cippy

Could this be your James

Name James Muir
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Address Lawrence Street
District Sunderland, Bishop Wearmouth, South
Parish Bishop Wearmouth
Administrative County Durham
Birth Place Scotland
Birth County Scotland
Reference Information
Folio 1/45
Page 40
Piece 0309

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 20 Feb 2013 13:17

There is this, on the original states a Minister

1841 census transcription details for: Lawrence Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 309
Book/Folio: 1/45
Page: 40
Reg. District: Sunderland
Sub District: Bishop Wearmouth, South
Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: Lawrence Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland
County: Durham
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MUIR, James M 40 1801 Scotland
HANNAH, Mary F 20 1821 Scotland
BREWIS, Robart M 30 1811
BREWIS, Mary F 25 1816
BREWIS, William M 2 1839 Durham
BREWIS, James M 0 (3 months) 1841 Durham
BREWIS, John M 25 1816


George

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:22

thanks, I'll have a look at the census, probably wrong trancription on ancestry

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:22

Done it again

Thought Minister was his first name and Sunderland his last name

;-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:26

Ancestry has it as HUER

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Feb 2013 13:32

And the Brewis family are actually living next door.

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:33

Thanks alot! I see somebody has already added the correction !

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:35

Typical mistranscription from Ancestry

Acutally stood out like a sore thumb if you just searched for James born 1800+/- 2 years and Scotland

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:35

Yes already done the correction.

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:38

BTW, who would Mary Hannah be, what does it say in the census?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:42

Mary is shown as FS - female servant

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 13:46

yes, and also from Scotland. Probably family, maybe even a daughter, I'll have a look for a Mary Hannah Muir

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Feb 2013 13:49

A "Herring" family tree on Ancestry has this 1841 census for Mary.

(Born 02/11/1810)

It reads Herring on the image.......

1841 England Census
about John Hessing
Name: John Hessing
[John Herring]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Hundred: Easington (North Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Wearmouth South
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 309
Book: 4
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Hessing 50 (Tailor)........All born in County.
Margaret Hessing 55
Mary Hessing 25
William Hessing 20 (Lab Journey)
Isabella Hessing 17
David Hessing 15 (Joiners App)

Parents Banns....


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Herring
Name: John Herring
Spouse Name: Margaret Turnbull
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 12 Oct 1807
Parish: St Benet Gracechurch
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register


Marriage....

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about John Herring
Name: John Herring
Spouse: Margt Turnbull
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1807
Parish: St Benet Gracechurch and St Leonard Eastcheap London


1851 England Census
about Margaret Herring
Name: Margaret Herring
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Herring
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Monk Wearmouth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 2396
Folio: 322
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
John Herring 63 (Tailor......1 man employed) Born Shearburne Hall South Durham
Margaret Herring 65






GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Feb 2013 13:52

1851 poss for Mary Hannah

Name: Mary Hannah
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Stromness

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 2396
Folio: 291
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
John Candlish 36
Elizabeth Candlish 36
Pendope Elizth Candlish 3
Mary Hannah 26

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 14:10

Yes, there was a Mary Betty Hannah born 31 Dec 1820 in Stromness, Orkney. And a James Muir from Orkney, will download these records!

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 14:14

@ Holly: this is probably my Herring tree, I'm looking for the Muirs at the moment

safc

safc Report 20 Feb 2013 14:44

looks like he wrote a book

http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Hill_Difficulty_Or_the_Means_of_Self.html?id=KB8pMwEACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Cippy

Cippy Report 20 Feb 2013 14:49

Yes, that must be from him, Thanks! He died 1858