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Lynda

Lynda Report 21 Feb 2013 13:53

Any info regarding my grandfather Charles Herbert James bornMarch 1884 in cardiff,siblings Marion,Bessie,Ethel,David,Will,Harry.
Married Frances Mary Scovell in Southampton 1912
Died aged 49yrs in 1931.
Any help would be most appreciated

Lynda

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:01

What sort of info are you hoping for?

Do you have any certs ?

Dea

Dea Report 21 Feb 2013 14:04

What information are you looking for?

These are his army records on Ancestry:


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Charles Herbert James
Name: Charles Herbert James
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age at enlistment: 33
Residence: 32 Plance St, Roath Cardiff
Document Year: 1917
Regimental Number: 119855
Regiment Name: Bedford Regt
Number of images: 20

Dea x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:07

Problem is that there are two births very close together - 1882 and 1884 - for Cardiff

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:08

Did he die in Cardiff ?

Deaths Jun 1931 (>99%)
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JAMES Charles H 49 Cardiff 11a 415


Or this one ?

Deaths Sep 1931 (>99%)
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James Charles H 49 Leeds North 9b 247



That would make possible birth c1882

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:13

The service record shows marriage to Florence Scovell in 1912

Trade at enlistment was fishmonger

Lynda

Lynda Report 21 Feb 2013 14:14

Thank you for his Army records,I am trying to find out any information on his parents names unknown.

Yes he died in Cardiff.

lynda

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:18

The marriage cert would be useful

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:23

Do you have any idea when his siblings were born?

How do you know their names if you do not know the parents ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Feb 2013 14:25

How do you know your Charles was born in Cardiff ?


Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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James Charles Herbert Evesham 6c 343

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Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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James Charles Herbert Cardiff 11a 278

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Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
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James Charles Herbert Hackney 1b 470

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Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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James Charles Herbert Cardiff 11a 308

Christine

Christine Report 21 Feb 2013 14:47

??

1891

Address 2, Victoria Street
Parish St Mary Cardiff
District Cardiff, Cardiff
Administrative County Glamorganshire
Householder 1
Name Thomas James
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1850
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Engine Fitter
Birth Place Merthyr
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 2
Name Emma M James
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County Cornwall
Householder 3
Name Willie James
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Apprentice
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 4
Name Ethel James
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1877
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 5
Name Marian James
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 6
Name Thomas James
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 7
Name Herbert James
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 8
Name Emma James
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1883
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 9
Name David James
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 10
Name Harry James
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
Householder 11
Name Bessie James
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cardiff
Birth County Glamorganshire
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Christine

Christine Report 21 Feb 2013 14:51

??

Marriages Jun 1876
Burt Emma Mary Cardiff 11a 407 <<
Davies David Cardiff 11a 407
James Thomas Cardiff 11a 407 <<
Johns Mary Ann Cardiff 11a 407

Dea

Dea Report 21 Feb 2013 14:55

That looks good Christine - his army records actually give his birth year as 1882 !

Dea x

Lynda

Lynda Report 21 Feb 2013 14:55

I tried ancestry.co.uk a few years ago and found Charles Herbert James birth reg Oct-Nov-Dec in Cardiff 11a 308.

He has one daughter and one son still living,they are in their eighties but do remember the names of their Uncles and Aunts,they are the people who are most interested in finding any other details.apparently Charles died at the age of 49yrs and they know nothing of his family history so would be interested in any info.They have wondered whether there was an Irish link maybe?

Dea

Dea Report 21 Feb 2013 15:19

This would be the family on 1911:

1911 census transcription details for: 21 Talworth St Cardiff
Print Close

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN32076 RG78PN1845 RD588 SD2 ED9 SN358
Reg. District: Cardiff
Sub District: East Cardiff
Parish: Cardiff
Enum. District: 9
Address: 21 Talworth St Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JAMES, Thomas Head Married M 62 1849 Ship Fitter Glamorgan Merthyr
JAMES, Emma Mary Wife Married
37 years F 58 1853 England Padstow
JAMES, Charles Herbert Son Single M 30 1881 Fruiterers Salesman Glam Cardiff
JAMES, David Joseph Son Single M 25 1886 Millers Clerk Glam Cardiff
JAMES, Harry Son Single M 23 1888 Boot Shop Assistant Glam Cardiff
JAMES, Lousia Elizabeth Daughter Single F 21 1890 Fancy Goods Assistant Glam Cardiff
JAMES, Jesssie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Mothers Help Glam Cardiff

Dea x

Christine

Christine Report 21 Feb 2013 15:51

St Columb was the Registration District for Padstow.

Births Dec 1853
BURT Emma Mary St Columb 5c 104

Christine

Christine Report 21 Feb 2013 16:02

I can only find this Emma on 1871 Census. Age is 3/4 years out but birth place correct. Can anyone else spot another contender please?

***We can strike this one out - she is still with her family in 1881 and 'our' Emma has been married five years by then!***

Address Church Lane
Parish Padstow
District St Columb Major, Padstow
Administrative County Cornwall
Householder 1
Name George Burt
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Ship's Carpenter
Birth Place Channel Islands (Guernsey)
Birth County Channel Islands
Householder 2
Name Mary Burt
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall
Householder 3
Name George Burt
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Ship's Carpenter
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall
Householder 4
Name Emma Burt
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall
Householder 5
Name Mary Simmons
Age 77
Estimated Year of Birth 1794
Relationship to Head of Household Mother-In-Law
Occupation
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Christine

Christine Report 21 Feb 2013 16:24

...and now another complication!

Births Mar 1852
Burt Emma St Columb 5c 123

Lynda

Lynda Report 21 Feb 2013 17:40

maybe the 1852 was mistaken for 1857 at some time