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Sorry for my delay in thanking all who responded to my request for information re Elizabeth Ridout Wiltshire England.

The reason being I am new to this form of searching but with help I now under stand it.

The information surplyed by all of you has been helpful thank you.

John Banville

I wonder if this is the fathers death, in the Sup reg district it states 'Near London', I presume thats where he died?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Barrell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1855
Registration district: Marlborough
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 36

This looks like John and his mother in 1861 - John's POB given as Denton - trees on Ancestry have Dinton; looks like Banvile on image, Elizabeth is a widow :

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Barwell
Name: Elizabeth Barwell
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Baverstock, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Camberwell St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 293
Piece: 388
Folio: 132
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Newcomb 32
Mary A Newcomb 27
Elizabeth Barwell 35
John Wm Barwell 7

Named for deceased brother...........

name: Jacob Elliot Ridout
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 28 Feb 1826
baptism/christening place: Baverstock, Wiltshire, England

father's name: Jacob Elliot Ridout

mother's name: Elizabeth Ridout

indexing project (batch) number: I03918-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279296
reference number: it 4

Sibling.................

name: Jacob Eliot Ridout
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Aug 1824
baptism/christening place: Baverstock, Wiltshire, England

father's name: Jacob Ridout

mother's name: Elizabeth Ridout

indexing project (batch) number: I03918-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279296
reference number: it 4

name: Jacob Eliot Ridout
gender: Male
burial date: 19 Dec 1824
burial place: Baverstock, Wiltshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03918-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279296

From the IGI........FREE to all

name: Elizabeth Ellot Ridout
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 Aug 1821
baptism/christening place: Baverstock, Wiltshire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Jaccob Ridout
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Ridout
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03918-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279296
reference number: it 4
Citing this Record

Ellen Selina's baptism:

Ellen Selina Barwell
[Ellen Selina Banvell]
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1884
Father's Name: John William Barwell
Mother's name: Emma Barwell
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Living at 27 Sutton Rd, Commercial Road; John's occupation - letter carrier

The trees on Ancestry show quite a few children born in England but only none born before 1881 survived to 1881 and the family went to Australia before 1887.

Some of the children were registered as Banvell:

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
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BANVELL William John Holborn 1b 714

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Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
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BANVELL Emma Holborn 1b 672

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Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
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Banvell Ellen Selina St. Geo.East 1c 411

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Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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BANVELL Henry Augustus St. Geo. East 1c 410

He is on two London Electoral Rolls, 1885 & 1887, at same address on both:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about John William Banvill
Name: John William Banvill
Year: 1885
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency: St George
Street Address: 27 Sutton-street East
Reference Number: MR/PER/B/104

Potty, I havent been able to find any of them on a census.

I was hoping a relative of Elizabeth' might have been staying with them to give us some sort of lead on her

A tree on Ancestry has him as Banvil and has photos. Source for DOB and POB given as Queensland Passenger lists but I can't view the record.

I take it this is the sons marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: John William Banwell
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emma Keeler
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Aug 1875
Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Banwell
Spouse Father Name: Henry Keeler
Register Type: Parish Register


.........and the sons death


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: John William Banvill
Death Date: 1 Sep 1918
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John Banvill
Mother's name: Elizabeth Rightout
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 003280
Page Number: 90


I cant see his birth registration?

Edit: I can see a possible for John (no middle name) in 1853, Wiltshire

Hi John


When/where was John William, the son born? Was he born a Banvell or a Ridout?

Trying to find any info on Elizabeth Ridout born Baverstock Wiltshire uk between 1816 and 1821 she had a son John William to John Banvell?.

On John Williams birth certificate Father is John Banvell Mother Elizabeth Ridout

thank you
John Banville