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Robert KIrkpatrick + Janet Hunter, Dumfries c 1790

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Megan

Megan Report 7 Mar 2013 23:47

I am looking for birthdates and any ancestors for Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter of Dumfries who had the following children in Tynron:
Helen Welsh Kirkpatrick 1808
Thomas Kirkpatrick 1810
James Kilpatrick 1812
Adam Brown Kirkpatrick c 1820
John Hunter Kirkpatrick c 1830

thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Mar 2013 00:53

Have you followed any of them through the census?

Looked on SP for any possible marriages or deaths?

Or looked on Familysearch?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Mar 2013 07:25

Janet Hunter (the name of her mother ties in with her and Robert's son Adam)

County Dumfriesshire
Place Tynron
Church The Parish Church
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 23 Sep 1786
BaptismDate 24 Sep 1786
Forename Janet
Sex F
FatherForename James
MotherForename Agnes
FatherSurname HUNTER
MotherSurname BROWN
Abode Margmony
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 3262

Megan

Megan Report 8 Mar 2013 23:37

Thank you Beverly. I have also found a listings for Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter born at Closeburn - found on family search. I know that the later Kirkpatricks in Australia had residences that they called 'Tynron' and 'Closeburn'.

How can I find out which Janet is the right one?

Name: Robert Kirkpatrick
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place: , CLOSEBURN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 01 Jan 1786
Birthplace: , Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Kirkpatrick
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Gibson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11816-2
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1067957
Reference ID: 2:160LPBL

Name: Janet Hunter
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place: , CLOSEBURN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 09 May 1790
Birthplace: , Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Hunter
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Mccadam
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11816-2
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1067957
Reference ID: 2:160LV1L

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2013 01:13

Here's another Robert Kirkpatrick born Closeburn:


Robert Kirkpatrick, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
Name: Robert Kirkpatrick
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place: , CLOSEBURN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1778
Birthplace: , Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Kirkpatrick
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Hunter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2013 01:23

There is also this male Kirkpatrick born in Closeburn at about the right time, with no first name given:

Name: Kirkpatrick
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place: , CLOSEBURN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1786
Birthplace: , Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Kirkpatrick
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebeca Haliday



Megan

Megan Report 9 Mar 2013 02:19

thanks, I will try looking at census info to see if they fit in with the right wife later. Robert was a very popular name!!!

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 9 Mar 2013 08:56

If they followed the traditional Scottish naming pattern, his father would be Thomas and hers would be James. (the names of their first two sons).

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2013 09:32

On the tenuous basis that his age is right, he's in Dumfries-shire; his sister Helen's middle name is Welsh and there's a Catherine Welsh in this listing . . . this could perhaps be Adam in 1841:


1841 Scotland Census about Adam Kirkpatrick
Name: Adam Kirkpatrick
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Sanquhar
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Elliock Bridge
Occupation: App Bellwright
Parish Number: 848
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mccall 25
Jean Mccall 25
Catherine Mccall 4
Isabell Mccall 2
Jean Mccall 5 Mo
Catherine Welsh 45
Adam Kirkpatrick 20

As shown in the 1851 census below, Catherine is the mother of Jean McCall. In view of Helen's middle name, there must be some family connection between Kirkpatricks and Welshes (though possibly not these particular Welshes!):


1851 Scotland Census about Cathrain Welish
Name: Cathrain Welish
[Catherine Welsh]
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relationship: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Sanquhar, Dumfries
Parish Number: 848
Civil parish: Sanquhar
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Picitclugh
ED: 1A
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 21
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1851_210
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mccall 36
Jean Mccall 35
Cathrain Mccall 14
Jean Mccall 10
Chrastain Mccall 7
Elasabeth Mccall 5
William Mccall 2
Margaret Mccall 4 Mo
Cathrain Welish 68
Charles Mccall 18
James Brown 57


Megan

Megan Report 11 Mar 2013 05:25

thank you for all your help :-)