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Hi Reggie
Thanks - I have the marriage of John and Eliz Ann. 1851 census states John b West Hackney and Eliz St Giles.

I see what you mean about not being able to read what occupation John Talbot had. It could read Carters or something else.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Harris
Name: John Harris
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Ann Talbot
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Apr 1843
Parish: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough: City of London
Father Name: John Harris
Spouse Father Name: John Talbot
Register Type: Parish Register

Which child of this marriage is your direct line?

1851 census


Person: HARRIS, Elizabeth Address: 12, Crane Court, Saint Mary Magdalen,
HARRIS, John Head Married M 29 1822 Labourer
Stoke Newington, Middlesex VIEW
HARRIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 29 1822
London, Middlesex VIEW
HARRIS, John Son Unmarried M 6 1845
London, Middlesex VIEW
, George Son Unmarried M 4 1847
London, Middlesex VIEW
HARRIS, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848
London, Middlesex VIEW
HARRIS, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 0 (11 MOS) 1851
London, Middlesex

For INFO

Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)

Harris John E London 2 192
TALBOT Elizabeth Ann E London 2 192


The female's second forename may help your search

As they were both born before July 1837, baptisms are the only records available

What does 1851 census say about their respective birthplaces?

Welcome to the boards Karen.

Lets see what we can find for you.

I am looking for ancestors of John Harris and Elizabeth Talbot. Both their fathers were named John. John Harris snr was a Carpenter (John jnr an engineer/iron shutter maker) at time of marriage to Eliz (can't read John T's occ). John and Eliz had 8 children (John 1846, George 1847, Mary Ann 1848, Emma 1850, Maria 1852, Elizabeth 1854, Robert 1856, Henry 1863 - my dir ancestor).
As you can imagine, John Harris and John Talbot are very common names - where do I start to find out more details. I cannot find John or Eliz births (but I have Eliz baptism which names the father as John and mother Sarah - 3 March 1822 St Giles without Cripplegate).
Addresses at time of marriage - John was in Rose St and Elizabeth in Wellington St in Central London. The then lived in Garlick Hill.
I believe John H snr lived in Butcher
John T I believe married Sarah Green and they had a daughter Frances Elizabeth b 1813ish and married Richard Jeffs. I cannot find any other info or any of them on the censuses John snr's or John/Eliz in 1841 or 1871/81 census
can anyone help nudge me in right direction..thanks :-S