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Help finding my grandmothers birth cert please!

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Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 10:25

Hi there,

I'm new to Genes, so i'm hoping someone out there might be able to help me!

i'm trying to find my grandmother's birth cert details, so I can order it and find out who her father was but I can't seem to find it on Genes.

I know she was born in June 1941 in Devizes, Wiltshire. Her name was Gillian Ann, but i'm not sure if she'd be registered under her mothers maiden name which is Miles or her fathers name which I don't know.

If anyone can help that would be fab

thanks,
Aimee

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Mar 2013 10:32

Use freebmd........far better for looking for BMD's

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

If her parents weren't married, she would normally be registered under her mother's name

EDIT

The birth is on freebmd.....but NOT in Devizes

I'll let you find it..............much more fun for you

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Mar 2013 10:34



are you certain she was born in Wiltshire?


??


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name: Gillian A Miles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miles
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1941
Registration district: Wallingford
Inferred County: Hampshire, Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 824

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 13 Mar 2013 10:53

Aimee,

A Tip. If you do decide to order any certificate then order it from:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

The cost will be £9.25 including postage.

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 10:56

Gosh! She was born in Wallingford? No wonder I couldn;t find her! Thank you SO much for all of your help. Absolutely loving Genes Reunited :)

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 11:04

I've just looked again and I realise that that person's birthday is in July/Aug/Sept and my grandmother's birthday was the 26th June 1941 so maybe that's not her?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 13 Mar 2013 11:06

Aimee,

Parents are allowed 6 weeks after a birth to register it so very possible that a birth on 26th of June would be registered in the Jul/Aug/Sep quarter.

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 11:08

Oh I see, so it is most likely to be her then! Thank you

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Mar 2013 11:12

As she was registered under her mother's name, the cert will not include any info about her father...........sorry, but that's the way it is.

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 11:34

Not even if I purchase her actual certificate?

In that case is there any way I could find out who her father was? All I know was he was Jewish

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Mar 2013 11:39

Is this Gillian's mother......??

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Hetty M Miles
Name: Hetty M Miles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Orchard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Registration district: Devizes
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 147

Who went on to marry.......


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Hetty M Miles
Name: Hetty M Miles
Spouse Name: Francis G Grey
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 2141


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Hetty Melinda Grey
Name: Hetty Melinda Grey
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1916
Date of Registration: Jan 1993
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Register Number: E44A
District and Subdistrict: 0631E
Entry number: 4




Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 11:43

Hi Holly,

Yes that is her mother but Frank wasn't her father, it was a scandal at the time but my Grandmother's father was a Jewish immigrant we think.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Mar 2013 11:50

Unfortunately.......unless the Father was named on the birth cert, you have no way of knowing exactly who he was.

Did she name Francis/Frank as her Father on her marriage cert?

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 11:51

Oh I don't know I haven't got a copy of the marriage cert, would I have to order it to find that out?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Mar 2013 11:57

Did Gillian marry under the surname of Miles or Grey?

I would imagine that if she married under the surname of Grey.......she probably named Francis/Frank as her Father.

Who did she marry?

She might not have even have known who her real Father was.

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 12:12

Gillian married under the name Grey which is interesting. She always referred to Frank as her dad although occasionally spoke about this mystery father who was Jewish, that's all she knew I think.

Gillian then went on to marry Frederick J Roberts in 1961

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Mar 2013 12:18

I very much doubt a copy of the marriage cert would be of any use to you really.

Aimee

Aimee Report 13 Mar 2013 12:28

ah ok, well thank you for your help!

Alemap

Alemap Report 13 Mar 2013 12:32

If Gillian married under the name Grey then she was probably adopted by Frank and he was her dad. The birth father will remain a mystery unless another family member can remember any details.

Just to let you know your not the only one with this scenario, but an obit was found in Gran's purse after her death. Still haven't contacted the other family though.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Mar 2013 12:33

In case you don't have this.........

Marriage of Hetty's parents.

Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
MILES Bertie Devizes 5a 166
ORCHARD Eleanor Annie Devizes 5a 166

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: MILES, Eleanor
Address: Duck St Potterne

ORCHARD, Thomas Head Widower M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Wilts Potterne VIEW
MILES, Bertie Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Carter On Farm Wilts Potterne VIEW
MILES, Eleanor Daughter Married2 years F 21 1890 Carter On Farm Wilts Potterne VIEW
MILES, Herbert George Grandson M 1 1910 Wilts Potterne VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 11944
Reference: RG14PN11944 RG78PN663 RD246 SD2 ED9 SN70
Registration District: Devizes
Sub District: Lavington
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Potterne
Address: Duck St Potterne
County: Wiltshire



Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
MILES Leonard W Orchard Devizes 5a 160

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Miles Hetty M Orchard Devizes 5a 147

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Miles Stanley A Orchard Devizes 5a 174