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john biccles sorton

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Margaret

Margaret Report 31 Mar 2013 20:47

I cannot find a birth for john biccles sorton. I have found his marriage to mary ann rendle in1889his death in 1944 but no birth, what am I doing wrong? The name biccles seems very strange to me and there are several different spellings, bickle, beckle beckel. It is a name I have never come across before. Any help appreciated, Maggie

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2013 21:01

There are these two:-


Name: SOURTON, John Bickle
Registration district: Plympton
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1862
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 222

or:-


Name: SOURTON, John Bickel
Registration district: Plympton
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1867
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 222

EDIT - it was likely to be the second one of these births as it looks like the first one died (the second was probably a brother who was named after him). This is the death of the first one:-

Name: SOURTON, John
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1867
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 5
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 134

Kath. x

Reggie

Reggie Report 31 Mar 2013 21:59

ON freebmd, use phonetic surname search, and onput ONLY the initial of the second forename...........

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:02

poss conection

Name: Susanah Bickle Soreting
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 1822
Event Place: Devon
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name:
Source Reference:
Digital Folder Number: 004635199

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:02

Name: John Bickle Sourton
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 1862
Event Place: Devon
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name:
Source Reference:
Digital Folder Number: 004634974

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:03

Name: John Beckel Sarton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Plympton, Devonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Totnes
Sub-District: Totnes
Ecclesiastical Parish: Little Hempstone
Civil Parish: Little Hempston
District/Parish/County: Devonshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 31 Mar 2013 22:03

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
SOURTON John Bickle Plympton 5b 222
Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
Sorton John Biccles Totnes 5b 323
Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Sorton John Beckel Totnes 5b 189
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
Sorton John B Hodge Totnes 5b 355
Deaths Jun 1944 (>99%)
Sorton John B 76 Totnes 5b 243

Age at death does not fit the birth above...........that one died at age 5

This is freebmd version of the second one posted by Kathleen, which is the one you need

Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
Souston John Bickel Plympton 5b 222

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:04

Name: John Beckel Sarton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Harbertonford, Devonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Totnes
Sub-District: Totnes
Ecclesiastical Parish: Little Hempstone
Civil Parish: Little Hempston
District/Parish/County: Devonshire

Margaret

Margaret Report 31 Mar 2013 22:08

thank you for that Kath. Looks like I should be using a different spelling of the surname too, I forgot that spellings often differ.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:42

the ones I posted are of no interest then?

Margaret

Margaret Report 1 Apr 2013 11:00

Thanks AnnCardiff for info, not sure about susanah yet, but there seem to be so many variations on the surname that I think she may well be a relative.The others are definitely of interest.

Margaret

Margaret Report 1 Apr 2013 11:04

Thanks Reggie for the tip about phonetic search for the surname, also for pointing out the possible death of the firstborn John Bickle sorton.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Apr 2013 12:41

Baptism (First Son)
Forename(s):John Bickle
Surname:Sourton
Year:1862
Month:Dec
Day:14
Father's Forename:Richard
Mother's Forename:Ann
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Dedication:Brixton
Place:Plymouth
County:Devon
Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

Burial
Forenames:John
Surname:Sourton
Age:4
Burial Year:1867
Burial Month:Aug
Burial Day:4
Parish:Brixton
Place:Plymouth
County:Devon

1871
SORTON, Richard B Head M 38 1833 Devon
SORTON, Anne Wife F 36 1835 Devon
SORTON, William H Son M 5 1866 Devon
SORTON, John B Son M 3 1868 Devon
SORTON, George Son M 0 1871 Devon
Piece: 2107
Folio: 49
Page: 9
Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Civil Parish: Yealmpton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Hollacombe Cottage, Yealmpton
County: Devonshire

Chris :)