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Mary & Laura SUMPTER-twins .

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Precious26

Precious26 Report 5 Apr 2013 04:26

Can anyone assist with information on either of the twins or their parents? They were born in Kettering on 1st June 1921.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 04:35

where have you already looked?


just to save your research being duplicated unnecessarily.

jax

jax Report 5 Apr 2013 04:36

The mothers maiden name was smith...not seeing a marriage that fits so purchasing a birth cert maybe the only way to find out

How do you know their exact date of birth?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 04:42

for information ...............


Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Sumpter Laura Smith Kettering 3b 289
Sumpter Mary Smith Kettering 3b 289


mmn = Smith



possibly an older sibling?????


Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Sumpter Eva H Smith Kettering 3b 295

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 05:00

Like Jax, I cannot find a marriage reference for them, nor a baptism


so the only way to find the parents is to buy the birth certificates.


Buy them from GRO, and never pay more than £9.25, postage included (even overseas)

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 15:41

If you search births on the freeBMD site, there are very few Laura SUMPTER and only one after 1900 with no middle initial.
There is one marriage that would fit with this, but not in the same area.... and of course that may be someone else, eg. a widow marrying again.


If Eva was a sister, this could relate to her 1st husband.
I think she later remarried going by records on freeBMD site

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl


DARBY, CLIFFORD CHARLES
Rank:Private
Service No:5392288
Date of Death:21/09/1944
Age:34
Regiment/Service:Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry
7th Bn.
Grave ReferenceXVIII, E, 12.
CemeteryCORIANO RIDGE WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Lewin and Annie Darby; husband of Eva Helen Darby, of Kettering, Northamptonshire.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 16:35

If you search trees on this site, someone has this family on their tree, I think...although they have put a different birth year for Laura and her sister.

Gwyn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2013 17:00

??
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Sumpter Samuel Kettering 3b 411
Smith Annie Elizabeth Kettering 3b 411

1911 England Census about Samuel Sumpter
Name: Samuel Sumpter
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rothwell, Northamptonshire
Civil parish: Rothwell
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street Address: 78 Littlewood St Rothwell Near Kettering Northamptonshire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: shoe Hand Finisher
Registration district: Kettering
Registration District Number: 167
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 261
Piece: 8601
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Sumpter 32
Anne Elizabeth Sumpter 28
Frances Violet Sumpter 10
Ernest Reggie Sumpter 5
Florence Mabel Sumpter 3
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 8601; Schedule Number: 261.

married 10 years 3 children born

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 17:03

1911 census

You might like to check this family.
Annie Elizabeth married as a SMITH and would still be young enough to have children in 1921

Name: Anne Elizabeth Sumpter
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Desborough, Northamptonshire
Civil parish: Rothwell
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street Address: 78 Littlewood St Rothwell Near Kettering Northamptonshire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Registration district: Kettering
Registration District Number: 167
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 261
Piece: 8601
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Sumpter 32
Anne Elizabeth Sumpter 28
Frances Violet Sumpter 10
Ernest Maggie Sumpter 5 ....... Image shows Ernest Reggie
Florence Mabel Sumpter 3

From freeBMD
Marriages Sep 1900
Smith Annie Elizabeth ..Kettering 3b 411

Sumpter Samuel .. Kettering 3b 411

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 17:05

Ah...I see Shirley posted first, while I was still 'gathering' !

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2013 17:07

:-D

jax

jax Report 5 Apr 2013 17:12

Not the right area though??

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Annie E Sumpter
Name: Annie E Sumpter
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 261


Precious26

Precious26 Report 10 Apr 2013 00:40

SUMPTER ; Thankyou very much for your help. The information I have is what you too have uncovered. We think Laura was my husband's grandmother.We were told that her mother died shortly after they (the twins) were born which ties in with the Sumpter who died in Leicester j/a/s 1921.I will have to keep digging.I haven't been able to find any info on Mary other than from the Northamptonshire archives who state the girls were born on 1st june 1921, Kettering

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2013 00:53

Precious

May I suggest that you obtain the birth certificates for the two girls, for Eva, and for the Annie E Sumpter who died in Leicester

Each certificate will cost £9.25, BUT you will discover whether they are all related, the reason for the Annie E's death ................. could it have been in, or as a result of, childbirth????. And you will also find out how close to the births she died.

Plus, you will discover who reported her death, or whether she was the wife or widow of Samuel


Some of your questions could well be answered!!