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CATHERINE AND STEPHEN CAIN.

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Apr 2013 20:36

Flip - your post crossed with my edit!

I definitely think they were headed to Kingston, wherever that may be.

Flip

Flip Report 11 Apr 2013 20:33

Yes, I see that, but looking at the Canadian list (arrival 20 Sept- which is rather a quick crossing!!) there is more written on it. Like who was in charge of the Catholic children and who was taking charge of them in Canada. I'm not sure if it says for or from Kingston/Kingstown. Take a look see what you think.

Sorry, should have refreshed first - see you already have that image

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Apr 2013 20:28

Flip, looking at the outgoing list it has Cath Cain ticket no 3867 and Stephen Cain ticket no 3866, port of embarkation Liverpool?

EDIT: The only mention I can see of Kingston on the Canadian arrival is where it says they were Catholic children in the care of Mrs Lacy for Kingston - I'd take that to be their destination. That manifest also gives Liverpool as embarkation.

I knew of Queenstown (Cobh) as a port in Cork, didn't know there was a Kingstown in Ireland too.

I was wondering if they'd been in a workhouse in Liverpool on the 1891 which might have shown birthplace ......

Flip

Flip Report 11 Apr 2013 20:20

MC, the writing also states they departed Kingstown - isn't that a sailing port in Ireland?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Apr 2013 20:09

Just looking at the Canadian shipping lists and they were workhouse children.

If they departed from Liverpool would Irish children have been taken across to Liverpool to go on to Canada? I'm curious about this, was wondering if they may have been in a workhouse in Liverpool first?

Are you sure that they were Irish born? There are 4 columns for nationalities across the top of the shipping list - English, Scotch, Irish and Foreigners. All of the children's ages are entered under the column headed English (but that could be laziness on the part of the person filling in the list).

Alemap

Alemap Report 11 Apr 2013 18:38

Can I suggest you look at irishgenealogy.ie

Possible for parents marriage with grandparents named.
Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. LAWRENCE
Marriage of JOSEPHUS KANE of ? KINGSTON and JULIA BRYAN of 1 NEWFOUNDLAND ST on 2 July 1860
:-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Apr 2013 17:17

Could this be Stephen?

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Stephen George Keane
Name: Stephen George Keane
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1879
Birth Place: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Father's Name: Joseph Keane
Mother's Name: Julia Brien
FHL Film Number: 256034

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Apr 2013 17:06

I wonder?
Any idea if there were other siblings?

Nom Michael Kane
Sexe Male

Date de naissance 28 Aug 1869
Lieu de naissance Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

Nom du père Joseph Kane
Nom de la mère Julia Brien

Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre C01218-6
Origine du système Ireland-EASy
Numéro de film 101196
ID de référence v 17-2 p 522
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Nom Sarah Kane
Sexe Female

Date de naissance 28 Nov 1866
Lieu de naissance 0563,DUBLIN,DUBLIN,IRELAND

Nom du père Joseph Kane
Nom de la mère Julia Bryan

Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre C70131-2
Origine du système Ireland-ODM
Numéro de film 101141

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Any idea when Joseph and Julia were born?

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Apr 2013 16:39

Irish Civil birth registration info can be found on Ancestry

Dianna

Dianna Report 11 Apr 2013 15:48

Need help with an Irish question.

Catherine (10 yrs old) and Stephen (11 yrs) Cain left Liverpool for Canada on the Parisian ship on September 26, 1891. Their parents were Joseph Cain and Julia O'Brien. We are trying to find out place of birth of this family in Ireland.

Thanks
Dianna Thomas.