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Derek Report 15 Apr 2013 23:12

Hi your message..Hi also Patchem..longtime no be honest with you this looks at first sight like a posting you might expect to see on April 1st..not the 14th.
There must be hundreds of Willis/Smith/Burton combinations, and I'll wait to see if Ann returns to her Thread, and what she has to offer....

I certainly admire your efforts based on no information.

will get back to you.
EDIT silly me..I missed the fact that Ann HAS in fact been back....sorry Ann


SylviaInCanada Report 15 Apr 2013 22:53

Patchem .....................

maybe they delayed registering her birth????

I certainly could not find an Annie Smith mmn Ashton registered in Derbyshire in any quarter in 1924


patchem Report 15 Apr 2013 22:31

Whittington Derbyshire comes under Chesterfield, and that ancestry family looks very suspicious.

Annie Smith
Mother's Maiden Surname: White
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1924
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1269
wrong mother's maiden name.

There are Smith/Ashton births elsewhere (lots).

ann has Annie Smith born 1924 Blackburn in her tree:
wrong birth quarter:
Births Jun 1924
SMITH Annie ASHTON Blackburn 8e 590


SylviaInCanada Report 15 Apr 2013 21:56

This is Derek's Derbyshire Parish Records thread

I've asked him to pop in here, when he gets a moment



SylviaInCanada Report 15 Apr 2013 21:52

we need Derek's input on here!

He's the expert on Derbyshire :-D :-D :-D


Fredk Report 15 Apr 2013 21:26

Could be Annies marriage

From Free BMD

Marriages Jun 1954

Willis George M Smith Chesterfield 3a 398

Marriages Jun 1954

Smith Annie WILLIS Chesterfield 3a 398

From GR

Top tip - marriage record
Marriage Record
Name Annie Smith
Year of Marriage 1954
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Chesterfield
Registration County Derbyshire
Spouse's Surname Willis
Volume Number 3A
Volume Page 398

Spouse Match: Annie SMITH married George M WILLIS
Name George M Willis
Year of Marriage 1954
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Chesterfield
Registration County Derbyshire
Spouse's Surname Smith
Volume Number 3A
Volume Page 398


MarieCeleste Report 15 Apr 2013 20:59

If Amy was born 1890 then there's a chance she may have been previously married - many young women lost their first husbands in WW1 and then went on to remarry.

Her maiden name would be shown on any birth records on the index but a copy of the actual birth certificate should clarify if she had any previous names.

EDIT: Perhaps not, a tree on Ancestry lists this as her husband & children

william smith (1889-1951)

fredrick (1916-1945)
madge (1918-1973)
nancy (1920-1978)
Annie (1924-1995)

No records attached.


Fredk Report 15 Apr 2013 20:46

Cannot find a William Smith marriage to Amy Ashton on Free BMD or GR


ann Report 15 Apr 2013 19:35

hi thank you for everyones help as im new to this site and just trying to get used to it and how to communicate with everyone . ive reached a dead end trying to find my ancestors on my mums side her name was annie willis nee smith dob 12/01/1924 she came from the whittington area of derbyshire her dads name was william smith , mums name amy smith nee ashton both born in about 1890 thks if anyone as any information xx :-)


patchem Report 15 Apr 2013 18:58



Cynthia Report 15 Apr 2013 14:04

New poster - friendly message on how to return to thread sent. :-)


patchem Report 14 Apr 2013 19:05

Ann has got Matthew Willis, 1873, Blackwell in the Peak District, in her tree.

So presumably this family
1911 England Census
Matthew Willis Age in 1911: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Gender: Male Birth Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Newbold and Dunston County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Devonshire St Newbold Moor Chesterfield
Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Colliery Registration district: Chesterfield
Registration District Number: 438 Sub-registration district: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Piece: 21115
Thomas Burton 70 Head married 45 years 6 children born 5 living Grantham Lincs
Catherine Burton 63 Southwell Notts
Matthew Willis 33 married 10 years 4 children 3 living
Alice Willis 30
Thomas William Willis 9
George Matthew Willis 6
Alice May Willis 1
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 21115.


Dea Report 14 Apr 2013 17:03

Hi Fredk

We await a reply ...........

Dea Xxx


Fredk Report 14 Apr 2013 16:49

Need some christian names as well as things mentioned by Dea


Dea Report 14 Apr 2013 15:47

Welcome to the boards Ann.

I am afraid that if you want some help you have not given enough information.

Can you say who you are trying to follow and give some approximate dates of birth and any other details you might know of these people?

At the moment, we don't even know which Century we should be looking in.


Dea Xxx


ann Report 14 Apr 2013 15:39

hi im trying to trace any one with the surname willis or smith who lived in the derbyshire area also burton who came from lincolnshire thanks any help will be appreciated