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Name: Ann Clark
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Nov 1816
Christening Place: Ecclesall-Bierlow, York, England
Father's Name: Willm. Clark
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02929-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 6344903
Reference ID: 38

Yes, that's the family.

Birth/baptism dates is what I am looking for!

Thanks
Beverley

is this the family?

John Bates in household of Joshua Bates, "England and Wales Census, 1881"Name: John Bates
Age (Original): 33
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1848
Birthplace: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Widower
Occupation: Spring Knife Cutler
Address: Ct 4 1 Solfernis St
Event Place: Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342119
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4635 / 28
Page Number: 49
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Joshua Bates M 62 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Wife Ann Bates F 65 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Son John Bates M 33 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Grand Son John W Bates M 15 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Grand Son Fred Bates M 12 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Grand Daughter Lilly Bates F 10 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Grand Daughter Ada Bates F 8 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Grand Son Walter Bates M 16 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

do you have birth dates for Joshua and Ann?

I'd be delighted if someone could help me discover the background of my 4 x great grandparents Joshua and Ann Bates.

I have them in all the Censuses and have full details of all their children and descendants. What I am stuck on is their marriage and birth/baptisms.

I do know that Ann was previously Ann Clark since in 1851 and 1861 her widowed father William Clark (b. 1775) is living with the family.

In 1841 they are living at Matilda Street Sheffield with baby son Septimus born 31st August 1839.
In 1851 they are in Sheffield with four more sons and Ann's father.
In 1861 they have moved to Ecclesall Bierlow and Joshua is wrongly transcribed as Joseph.
In 1881 they are still in Ecclesall Bierlow with son John and his family.
They consistently give their place of birth as Sheffield and their dates of birth are pretty constant as being between 1816-1819.
I think Ann must have had quite a few older siblings if her father was in his late 30's /early 40's when she was born.

Many thanks to anyone who can take a look for me, I would love to go back further with these two families.

Beverley