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Alice Louise Havard/Whatling

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georgina

georgina Report 26 Apr 2013 15:43

my grandmother name of Alice Louise Whatling DoB 1875 I can find her in 1901 Census married with 2 children Husband died 1904 leaving her with 2 kids . the children were taken into care1908-11 (Mytle Home for destitute and orphaned children Liverpool) then sent to Canada.i cannot find any 1911 census record for Alice, if she was in the workhouse are they a separate record? this is all in Liverpool. how would I find out where she was from 1905 to 1917 when I have her 2nd marriage certificate? any suggestions as to how I can find out more?
georgina

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Apr 2013 16:53

Is this her 2nd marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1917
Revil Alexander- Whatling -Prescot 8b 1101
Whatling Alice - Revil -Prescot 8b 1101

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Apr 2013 16:55

How old was Alexander on his marriage cert ?

Was he born in Scotland ?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Apr 2013 17:26

Alice doesn't appear on 1911 Scotland census either.

georgina

georgina Report 26 Apr 2013 17:50

Alexander Revill was born in Liverpool can trace him . yes that is their wedding cert. and yes it is her 2nd marriage . could she have been in Ireland ? did they have a census ? I know that in 1912 she had a son born in Widnes lancs name of William not sure if it is under Whatling or Revill;.the plot thickens

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 18:13

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Name: William G Whatling
Mother's Maiden Name: Whatling
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1340

Penny

Penny Report 26 Apr 2013 18:19

Suggested 1911

Name: Alice Widoldang
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Irlant, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Garston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Loch Street Garston
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: At Home
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 22684
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Plant 29
Martha Plant 27
George H Wilson 7
May Plant 4
Robert Plant 1 5/12
Alice Widoldang 36 <<<<< somewhat mashed surname!

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 22684.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 18:22

Name: Alice Louise Havard
Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 21
Marriage Date: 17 May 1896
Parish: Garston, St Michael
Spouse's Name: William Lee Whatling
Father's Name: Thomas Havard
Spouse Father's Name: Lee Whatling
Reference Number: 283 GAR/3/2


just so we know who we are looking for

1901 England Census about William Lee Whatting
Name: William Lee Whatting
[William Lee Whatling]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice L Whatting
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Garston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 3507
Folio: 191
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lee Whatting 26
Alice L Whatting 26
Ellen Whatting 2
Annie Whatting 2 Months
Ann Harvard 55
Edith Harvard 24

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3507; Folio: 191; Page: 24



Name: William Lee Whatling
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 388

looks like they lost a baby too

Name: William Lee Whatling
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 545

Penny

Penny Report 26 Apr 2013 18:24

we were looking for 1911 census i think, and i think i found it above, surname mashed up as Widoldang

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 18:25

Name: Annie Lee Whatling
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Secreterys Sheltering Homes For Orphan Fatherless & Destiucte Children Myrtle Street Liverpool
Occupation: School
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration District Number: 453
Sub-registration district: Abercromby
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 22187

with Ellen Mary Whatling 11

Penny

Penny Report 26 Apr 2013 19:23

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Sheltering_Home_for_Destitute_Children,_Myrtle_Street,_Liverpool.JPG
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=138-920bir&cid=0#0

georgina

georgina Report 26 Apr 2013 20:55

thank you penny you are wonderful !!! and thank you to all who have given me so much information. didn't know about another baby called William in 1899? knew she lost one in 1904 same year as her husband. had another boy William in 1912/13 ?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2013 21:10

I wonder if this is the baptism of the baby who died 1899? Different parents but there may be a connection:

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: William Lee Whatling
Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1898
Parish: Garston, St Michael
Father's Name: George Whatling - labourer
Mother's Name: Florence Whatling
Reference Number: 283 GAR/2/7

They lived 12 Shakespeare Street, Garston

EDIT: Have found George and Florence in 1901 at 12 Shakespeare Street and they don't have a child who matches this baptism so it's likely that it was his death.

ADDED:

Liverpool, England, Burials, 1813-1974

Name: William Lee Whatling
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 8/12 (8 months)
Burial Date: 18 Jul 1899
Parish: Garston, St Michael
Reference Number: 283 GAR/4/6

Address is 12 Shakespeare Street.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2013 21:21

The 1901 census shows George Whatling's birthplace as Eye, Suffolk and I notice that William Lee Whatling was born Suffolk per the 1901 so it's quite possible that they were brothers and George named his son accordingly.