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find me info on francis henry coates

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faye

faye Report 26 Apr 2013 15:45

born westbury on severn gloucestershire 1897 died 1980 married ida hughes
can ya help me with more info as living relatives do not know much more than that

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:10

Birth
Francis Henry Coates
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 235

Death?
Francis Henry Coates
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1897
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1859

A tree on Ancestry has his parents as
Gertrude Sterry
Birth abt 1878 in Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

and

William Coates
Birth 14 dec 1834 in sandhurst gloucestershire
Death July 1901 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

There is a note on Gertrude's profile
"Gertrude Sterry was his housekeeper and not daughter and her 1st 2 children were his and she later married and had more and was never married to William Coates"

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:14

1901 England Census about Gertrude Sterry

Gertrude Sterry
[Gertrude Coates]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Coates
Gender: Female
Where born: Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Name Age
William Coates 63
Gertrude Sterry 23
Francis Sterry 3 <<<<<
Frederick Sterry 9 Months

To confirm the parentage, it might be an idea to puchase his BC to see if William Coates acknowledged the child as his. It seems odd to list Francis as a Sterry if he was previously registered under Coates




Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 16:25

??
Name: Gertrude Emily Sterry
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 665

spouse Wallace Jones orWilliam Tuck

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:25

Gertrude's marriage after William Coate's death? It matches with Ancestry Tree

from
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
JONES Wallace STERRY Gertrude Emily Gloucester Northgate St John the Baptist 1902 55 No 5 16

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 16:29

She married Wallace Jones
1911 England Census about Gertrude Jones
Name: Gertrude Jones
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Longhope, Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Longhope
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Slad, Longhope, Glos'ter
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1903
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Registration District Number: 323
Sub-registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 15213
Household Members:
Name Age
Wallace Jones 28
Gertrude Jones 32
Francis Jones 13 >>>>>>>>>>>>stepson
Frederick Jones 10<<<<<<<<<<<<<<stepson
Edgar Jones 6
Norris Jones 3

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 15213; Schedule Number: 51.

Francis and Frederick are now listed as Jones rather than Coates or Sterry

married 8 years 2 children born

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:30

Oh what a tangled web they weave!

1911 England Census about Gertrude Jones - deleted as Shirley has posted above

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:35

Frederick is also registered under the surname Coates

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/BirthSearch.aspx

COATES Frederick G STERRY 1900 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 6A 129

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:45

Possible half siblings from
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Jones Ernest C Sterry Westbury S. 6a 477

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Jones Gladys E Sterry Westbury S. 6a 491

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Jones Ernest J Sterry Pontypridd 11a 1222 ****

*** not so sure about Ernest as Pontypridd is in Wales. Mind you, Wallace Jones was a Plate Layer on the Great Western Railway in 1911, so may have moved the family to where work was.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 16:57

Possibly Gertrude Emily Sterry's birth

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/BirthSearch.aspx

STERRY Gertrude Emily mmn Jones 1878 Gloucester, Gloucester, Huntley 14 450

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 17:03

This might be the above Gertrude Emily's parents marriage (from Freebmd)

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Jones Patience Westbury S 6a 441
Sterry George Westbury S 6a 441

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 17:07

1881 England Census about Gertrude Emily Sterrey
Name: Gertrude Emily Sterrey
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Sterrey
Mother's Name: Patience Sterrey
Gender: Female
Where born: Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Longhope
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Dursley Cross

Name Age
George Sterrey 40
Patience Sterrey 34
Leonard George Sterrey 4
Gertrude Emily Sterrey 2
Walace Charles or Chester Sterrey (probably Walace Charles)
John Marshall 38 - lodger
Frank Green 20 -lodger

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Apr 2013 17:12

Not sure what else you want.

BMD cerificates can either be ordered from the Glouc reg offices using the link on the results page on http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk

ww3.glouceshire.gov.uk a free site to use, and won't cost you anything to repeat the BMD searches.

The only other place to purchase certificates is

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


By the way - your title of 'Find me info....' could have been better worded - we are all fellow paying members and love to help, but.....???? ;-)

Christine

Christine Report 26 Apr 2013 18:33

From http://www.forest-of-dean.net/

Record_ID: 136038
Entry_Number: 714
Year: 1878
Month: Nov
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: STERRY
Child_Forenames: Gertrude Emily
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Patience
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Longhope
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: F.C.Guise Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 90
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: S360

Christine

Christine Report 26 Apr 2013 18:38

Record_ID: 136410
Entry_Number: 1087
Year: 1898
Month: May
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: STERRY
Child_Forenames: Francis Henry
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Gertrude
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: May Hill Longhope
Occupation: Butcher
Officiating_Minister: George Barr M A Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 20 Dec 1897
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 136
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: S360


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Apr 2013 11:21

Fairly new poster - friendly message on how to return to thread sent. :-)