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Hannah Cope (nee Elks), Staffordshire, 1821-

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Deirdre

Deirdre Report 26 Apr 2013 18:11

Thanks both,

Hi Shirley, yes that's the family. Sorry I did put Hanley, Staffs in the title originally but it was too long!

Brummiejan - as far as I know she's didn't have a middle name; the Hannah Eliz one could presumably be in Hanley as it's Stoke on Trent, but where was she in 1891 and 1901? The others would suggest she was out of the area she'd lived in most of her life, which seems strange.

Apart from daughter Elizabeth, I've not found anything about Mary Ann, William died at a few months and Thomas (my great grandfather) moved to Yorkshire then Cardiff, and Hannah wasn't with them.

Deirdre

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Apr 2013 17:40

Did wonder about this, though it def says Pope on image so would have to have been an error by the enumerator:

EDIT no, Hannah Pope is elsewhere! Will leave to prevent others making the same error.

1891 England Census
Name: Hannah Pope
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Tunstall
County/Island: Staffordshire

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Tunstall

George Bevan 37
Elizabeth M S Bevan 38
George J Bevan 8
William Bevan 6
Mary M Bevan 4
Hannah Pope 68
Jane Bevan 43
Charles F Hardman 19
William R Hearn 15

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Apr 2013 17:35

Well, there are only 3 possible deaths in Staffs as far as I can see - I don't think she had a middle name did she?

Name: Hannah Cope
Birth: abt 1820
Death: Jul 1891 - Tamworth, Staffordshire

Name: Hannah Cope
Birth: abt 1821
Death: Apr 1896 - Leek, Staffordshire

Name: Hannah Elizabeth Cope
Birth: abt 1822
Death: Jul 1903 - Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 16:56

ok Staffordshie!!

1881 England Census about Elizabeth Morrey
Name: Elizabeth Morrey
[Elizabeth Murray]
[Elizabeth Cope]
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Louis Murrey
Mother's Name: Hannah Cope
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 64 Hanover St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: House Duties
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2725
Folio: 39
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Louis Murrey 37
Elizabeth Morrey 33
Elizabeth A. Murray 10
Albert E. Murray 8
Mary L. Murray 6
Fredrick L. Murray 3
Eugene P. Murray 1
Hannah Cope 70


so not with the family b 1891
1891 England Census about Elizabeth Murray
Name: Elizabeth Murray
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Louis R Murray
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Etruria
Town: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2172
Folio: 117
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Louis R Murray 47
Elizabeth Murray 43
Elizabeth A Murray 20
Albert E Murray 18
Mary L Murray 16
Frances L Murray 13
Eugene P Murray 11
Joseph E Murray 9
Vincent T Murray 8
Louis C Murray 2
William J B Murray 1
Hilda Murray 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2172; Folio: 117; Page: 17; GSU Roll: 6097282

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Apr 2013 16:52

Where is Hanley ??

Deirdre

Deirdre Report 26 Apr 2013 16:45

Hi, I’m looking for info on Hannah Cope (nee Elks), my great great grandmother.

She was born in Alton around 1821 (age is fairly consistent throughout other than on the 1881 census) and married Thomas Cope in Cheadle in 1845. She was living in Hanley in 1851 (with Thomas and 2 children) and still in Hanley in 1861, though a widow with 4 children (Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Thomas Augustine and William Bernard who is only 2 months old). Her father Paul was living with them. Her husband, Thomas, had died in late 1860 / early 1861 (waiting for certificate).

In 1871 and 1881 Hannah was living with her daughter Elizabeth (now Mrs Louis Murray) and family in Charles Street, Hanley.

But I can’t find her after that (census, re-marriage or death), and would be really grateful for help.

Many thanks.

Deirdre