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Emily Ellen Witheridge nee Attrill b1850 Jersey

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Elsiemary

Elsiemary Report 27 May 2013 19:41

My great grandmother Emily Ellen Witheridge (nee Attrill) was born in the Channel Islands, approx. 1850, as far as I know. I have seen a record somewhere which mentions Jersey, and I have seen a record which mentions Guernsey. It was mentioned to me that perhaps records had to be recorded in one particular place for the Channel islands. However, I have not been able to trace a more accurate record. My grandmother (also Emily Ellen Witheridge was the second of their daughters. Their first daughter also named Emily Ellen died. When my grandmother was born, she was given the same name.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 19:48

Hello Elsiemary - there is a lady called JerseyLily who helps on here sometimes and can help with Channel Island records. Those records aren't available on-line in the same way many UK ones are.

If you click edit on your post you can get back to your title and include the word Jersey - she may then spot it and be able to help.

What is it that your hoping to find out?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 19:51

Posting 1881 for our reference:

WITHERIDGE, Emily Ellen Wife Head Married F 31 1850 Seamans Wife Jersey, Channel Islands
WITHERIDGE, Ann E Daughter Single F 15 1866 Scholar Plymouth, Devon
WITHERIDGE, Rhoda J Daughter Single F 14 1867 Scholar Plymouth, Devon
WITHERIDGE, George T Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Plymouth, Devon
WITHERIDGE, Emily E Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Plymouth, Devon

Piece: 2201 Folio: 88 Page: 16
Registration District: Plymouth
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew M

Address: 63, Southside St, Plymouth St Andrew County: Devonshire
...................................................................................................................................

ADDED - 1871 for husband:

WITHERIDGE, George S Head M 25 1846 Devon Armours Crew RN
WITHERIDGE, Emily E Wife F 22 1849 Channel Islands - Jersey
WITHERIDGE, Hannah E Daughter F 5 1866 Devon
WITHERIDGE, Rhoda J Daughter F 3 1868 Devon
WITHERIDGE, George T Son M 2 1869 Devon
WITHERIDGE, Emily E Daughter F 0 1871 Devon

Piece: 2118 Folio: 115 Page: 18
Registration District: Plymouth
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Municipal Borough: Plymouth

Address: Claremont Street, St Andrew, Plymouth County: Devonshire

Everyone else born Plymouth

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2013 19:52

Here's JerseyLily's thread. Although it hasn't been active for some time, Lily does still make an occasional appearance on the Boards. You could always send her a Personal Message by clicking on her name to ask if she is able to help

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1120035
JERSEY LOOK-UPS OFFERED

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 May 2013 19:52

1871 census for info

Name:
Emily E Witheridge
Age:22
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1849
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:George T Witheridge
Gender:Female
Where born:Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish:St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
County/Island:Devon
Country:England

Name:George T Witheridge
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1846
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Emily E Witheridge
Gender:Male
Where born:Plymouth
Civil Parish:St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
County/Island:Devon
Household Members:
George T Witheridge 25
Emily E Witheridge 22
Hannah E Witheridge 5
Rhoda J Witheridge 3
George S Witheridge 2
Emily E Witheridge 4 Months

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 May 2013 19:55

marriage

Name:
George Thomas Witheridge
Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1864
Registration District:
Plymouth
Inferred County:
Devon
Volume Number:
5b
Page Number:
484
Emily Ellen Atrill

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 19:56

Although Channel Island census are available, I'm not seeing her before marriage (yet)

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 May 2013 20:00

death index

Name:
Emily Ellen Witheridge
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1849
Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1894
Age at Death:
45
Registration District:
Plymouth
Inferred County:
Devonshire
Volume:
5b
Page:
151

Vera

Vera Report 27 May 2013 20:06

1851 jersey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
ATRILL, John Head Married M 31 1820 Stone Mason
England VIEW
ATRILL, Rhoda Wife Married F 31 1820 At Home
England VIEW
ATRILL, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841 At Home
England VIEW
ATRILL, Rhoda Jane Daughter F 8 1843 At Home
England VIEW
ATRILL, Hanna Maria Daughter F 6 1845 At Home
VIEW
ATRILL, John Ths Son M 11 1840 Scholar
England VIEW
ATRILL, Emlin Ellin Daughter F 2 1849
St Heliers, Jersey VIEW
Piece: 2527
Folio: 255
Page: 7
Registration District:
Civil Parish: St Helier
Municipal Borough:
Address: 45, Colomberie Street, St Helier
County: Jersey


Regards Vera

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 May 2013 20:10

This might be the family in 1851

Name:
Emlen Ellin Ahill
[Emlen Ellin Atrill]
Age:
2
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1849
Relation:
Daughter
Father's Name:
John Ahill

Mother's Name:
Rhoda Ahill
Gender:
Female
Where born:
St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish or Township:
St Helier


Household Members
John Ahill 31
Rhoda Ahill 31
Sarah Ahill 10
Rhoda Jane Ahill 8
Hanna Maria Ahill 6
John Thos Ahill 4
Emlen Ellin Ahill 2

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 May 2013 20:14

snap Vera. I think you found it on Ancestry like me I just closed the spaces a bit I don't know why they make it spaced when it copied.

Joseph

Joseph Report 27 May 2013 20:16

1851 at 45, Colomberie Street, St Helier
ATRILL, John Head Married M 31 1820 Stone MasonEngland
ATRILL, Rhoda Wife Married F 31 1820 At Home England
ATRILL, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841 At Home England
ATRILL, Rhoda Jane Daughter F 8 1843 At Home England
ATRILL, Hanna Maria Daughter F 6 1845 At Home
ATRILL, John Ths Son M 11 1840 Scholar England
ATRILL, Emlin Ellin Daughter F 2 1849 St Heliers, Jersey

Vera

Vera Report 27 May 2013 20:16

Yes Jan, as you see I was having trouble on the Ancestry one......so found it on FMP and it has gone through OK. I would say it is the family that Elsiemay is looking for.

Regards Vera

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 May 2013 20:22

???????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915

John Atrill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1838
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 9
Page Number: 464
Records on Page:
Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John Atrill
Amelia Callaway
Susan Cumming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rhoda Hockaday
Thomas Hogg
Jane Mann
Thomas Parsons
Richard Pearse

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Rhoda Jane Atrill
Rhoda Jane Atrill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842
Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 417

Rhoda Jane's BC would give her parents names - hopefully John Atrill and Rhoda Hockaday

Elsiemary

Elsiemary Report 28 May 2013 11:10

Thank you everyone for your replies, I have the majority of information, however, it's the Jersey records, I.e. my great grandmothers's background I have been noble to find (so frustrating!) thank you for informing me about JerseyLilley. I will try to contact. I will let you know the outcome..

Elsiemary

Elsiemary Report 28 May 2013 11:23

Just noticed the Jersey information from Jan Vera Joseph, thank you all again. I hope to somehow trace living relatives from this information.

Christine

Christine Report 28 May 2013 14:22

I researched my sister-in-laws tree and John Atrill & Rhoda Hockaday are ancestors of hers.

During Victorian times the British Government believed that the French intended to invade England. Forts were built in the Channel Islands as part of our defences. As John Atrill was a Stone Mason by profession, we surmised that he was one of the many workers drafted in to construct the forts.

John & Rhoda had the following children that I know of:

Eliza (1) 1839 born Wembury, Devon
Sarah 1840 Plymouth
Rhoda Jane 1842 Wembury
Hannah 1845 Wembury
John Thomas 1846 Plymouth
Emmeline (or any variation of!) 1849 Jersey CI
Eliza (2) 1852 Jersey CI
Mahala 1854 Alderney CI

The earliest Atrill I could find was Edward (1751-1833).
It would appear that nobody has been able to find out where he was from, although there are a lot of Atrills on the Isle of Wight.

He married Hannah Wadmore in Hampshire, but they settled in Wembury. You can find the baptisms & subsequent marriages of their children on IGI Devon.

Edward was described as a Gentleman and owned property in Devon. I will send you a copy of his Will.

Hope this helps!

Regards
Chris

Elsiemary

Elsiemary Report 28 May 2013 21:01

Thank you for this information. Yes, each time I entered my gt grandmothers name, there were many links to the Isle of Wight, but I had difficulty linking to Jersey. I suppose it's a matter of knowing how to do it!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 May 2013 23:19

Connected:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1325560?jump=1325560

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 2 Jun 2013 00:53

St Helier Town Church baptisms

John Thomas Atrill
Birth 29/8/1849 at St Andrews, Plymouth
Baptism 6/6/1849
Father John Atrill
Mother Rhoda Hockaday
Father's occupation Stone mason
Godparents Father and Mother

Emily Allen Atrill
Birth 24/10/1848
Baptism 6/6/1849
Parents As above
Godparents John Spilsbury and Elisa Earles