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George ARCHARD, born 1836 Calne Wiltshire

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Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 03:34

I am helping a friend with her family tree. Her ancestor George Archard is missing from the 1861 census. I found a newspaper article that stated that a George Archard, aged 25, was sentenced to 6 months hard labour in March, 1861. The newspaper article was under the heading "Wilt Assizes". As the census was held in April, 1861 that explains his absence from the family. But I cant find him anywhere else either. I thought I might be able to search by address if I knew the names of prisons back then.
His wife is Jane, born 1831. Her daughter Eliza Norman (from 1st marriage) and son Henry George Archard are with her on the 1861 census in Calne, Wiltshire.
I have searched excessively for George, using only his first name and also looking at Archers, Orchards and Richards and everything in between.
Any ideas most welcome.
Julie-Ann

Fredk

Fredk Report 10 Jun 2013 06:30

Just for reference if that is them

1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Leeman Grove
Parish East Rosedale
District Pickering, Lastingham
Administrative County Yorkshire
Householder 1
Name George Archard
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Wiltshire
Birth County Wiltshire
Householder 2
Name Jane Archard
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Wiltshire
Birth County Wiltshire
Householder 3
Name George Archard
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Wiltshire
Birth County Wiltshire
Householder 4
Name Ellen Archard
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Essex
Birth County Essex
Householder 5
Name Elizabeth A Sanders
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Devon
Birth County Devon

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Jun 2013 06:50


could this be him - prisoners were often referred to by their initials only -


1861


Name: G A
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Devizes St John
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Address: The Prison, Northgate Street, St Johns, Devizes

Occupation: Labourer

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Devizes
Sub-registration District: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 170
Piece: 1293
Folio: 17
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Alexander 53
Fanny Alexander 53
E Alexander 26
M E Alexander 24
H J Alexander 19
G E Alexander 18
S R Alexander 15
E C Alexander 12
L Alexander 10
W J Alexander 8
William Tyler 61
Henry Rolfe 51
George Brown 39
John Gerrish 50
John Drake 51
S H 15
J M 24
J W 50
G D 21
J W 34
J T 33
J S 31
J C 45
J P 26
M S 53
A S 40
W N 45
W G 27
S F 55
L S 35
M G 20
W F 45
A F 23
J C 28
H P 24
R W 16
H T 40
S L 38
D A 29
E L 43
W B 46
J J 16
R S 22
J M 21
T L 22
A J 45
S B 47
W H 29
W J 29
W W 69
J W 48
J P 27
W K 17
W J 27
P B 47
H H 18
C L 35
D P 35
S J 17
J G 34
R H 25
J N 57
G B 23
F B 26
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>G A 25
W F 47
H J 36
W J 28
T F 21
A G 38
H M 60
E H S 8
G P 7
W B 35
D J 41
E H 30
G A 41
R W 15
J D 18
H G 17
W S 30
E M 28
J G 21
A S 21
J M 21
J D 46
J W 61
J J 38
J C 48
J H 40
W S 32
E H 20
W W 34

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1293; Folio: 17; Page: 35; GSU roll: 542791.


Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 08:00

Thanks Fredk, that is them on the 1871 census. And Thank you Choccy. I am sure that is George! I didnt expect the problem to be solved so soon :).
I have another problem with this family, but I will start a new thread.
Many Thanks
Julie-Ann

Fredk

Fredk Report 10 Jun 2013 08:03

You would be better off adding it to this thread

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2013 08:30

Hello Julie-Ann, you need to keep all requests about the same family in one place so that research doesn't get duplicated and so we can also cross reference.

Do you have this?

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: George Archard
Date of Trial: 25 Mar 1861
Trial Year: 1861
Location of Trial: Wiltshire, England

6 months imprisonment for "larceny by servant"
Sentence: Imprisonment

Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 08:46

I have been unable to find a birth for George Henry ARCHARD, born 1860.
In the 1861 census he is named as Henry George ARCHARD, living in Calne, Wiltshire, aged 9 months and born in Bath Somerset. On the 1871 Census he is living in Yorkshire, under George Archard. He is aged 10 and birth place is given as Calne, Wiltshire (the same birthplace as his father). He is not on any further censuses as he came to Australia in 1878. His name in Australia was George Henry Archard.
His parents Jane Norman and George Archard married in Calne Wiltshire in 1859. This was Jane's second marriage. Her maiden name was Tibble/Tibald/Theobald.
I have searched parish records online where available but havent been able to find a birth for young George.
Hoping you can help,
Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 09:35

Thanks MarieCeleste for that info, no I didnt have it. I only had the newspaper article reporting his offence and sentence. Nice to have the official version.
Julie-Ann

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 09:45

As, until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births, his probably wasn't recorded

But, as the full names of his parents are known, you aren't missing out on anything other than exact DOB, and precise birth location

For confirmed maiden name info for Jane, purchase the cert of her marriage to Archard. It will name her father (if she knew him)

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 09:48

The birthplace info for the son in 1861 could easily be laziness on the part of the enumerator......he 'dittoed' the girl's birthplace

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 09:49

Births Dec 1855 (>99%)
Norman Eliza Jane Bath 5c 613

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 10:00

???????

Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)
ADAMS William Swindon &c 8 593
Butcher William Swindon 8 593
Cope Sarah Highworth 8 593
Hollister William Swindon 8 593
Litten Jane Swindon &c 8 593
Norman Peter Highworth 8 593
Reynolds Elizabeth Swindon 8 593
Tibalds Jane Swindon &c 8 593

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1851 census


Person: NORMAN, Jane Address: New Road, Calne

NORMAN, Jane Head Married F 21 1830 At Home
Coleshill, Berkshire VIEW
NORMAN, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Scholar
Calne, Wiltshire VIEW
NORMAN, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 5 1846 Scholar
Calne, Wiltshire

Obviously, Jane was not the mother of the girls on here...the assumption must be that they were her husband's daughters from a previous marriage

1861 census


Person: ARCHARD, Jane Address: Hog Street, Calne

ARCHARD, Jane Wife Married F 30 1831 Bacon Curers & Labourers Wife
Coleshill, Wiltshire VIEW
NORMAN, Eliza Jane Alma Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
ARCHARD, Henry George Son M 0 (9M) 1861
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
Piece: 1286
Folio: 67
Page: 9
Registration District: Calne
Civil Parish: Calne

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 10:00

Deaths Mar 1858 (>99%)
Norman Peter Calne 5a 59

Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 12:59

Thanks Reggie - you are quite right. We know George was born in 1860, just no official recognition of this fact. I was hoping someone might have access to records that I dont have and find him for me. We have the Parish record for Jane's marriage to Peter Norman. Her maiden name was Tibalds. Her Parish christening record however records her surname as Theobalds. And on the 1841 census it is Theobolds.
Her son in Australia on his marriage certificate says her name was Tibble.
I dont think the parents registered George's birth but hopefully they Christened him and eventually a record for this will turn up.
Thanks again,
Julie-Ann

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 13:04

You didn't check the IGI!

I didn't look there earlier, as I assumed you would have done so.................


Name: Henry George Archard
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 02 Sep 1860
Christening Place: Calne, Wiltshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Archard
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03918-1
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1279383
Reference ID: p63

Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 21:49

Yippee!! I think I did check the IGI but only under George not Henry. Silly me!
Thank you very much Reggie.
Julie-Ann.

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Jun 2013 22:09

From someone's tree

George Henry Archard
Birth: 24 Jun 1860 - Somerset, England
Death: 28 Feb 1924 - Mayfield
Marriage: 06 Feb 1882 (6 Feb 1882)
Parents: George Archard, Jane Archard
Spouse: Ellen Hughes

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 22:33

Glad to have been of some help...................

Julie-Ann

Julie-Ann Report 10 Jun 2013 23:29

Thanks Mike,
That June birth fits in with him being 9 months old at the census the following April.
And thank you everyone else for helping solve these Archard problems.
Julie-Ann