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I am trying to find information on Emily Dick I have found a baptism record giving date of baptism as 22 March 1863, place Croydon common St James, her parents arer shown as James Dick and Jane Deighton, 1871 Census shows Emily as the daughter of James and Maria Dick (James parents) 1881 Census shows Emily as living with James and Maria but she is now their Granddaughter,
I know mistakes often happen in Census records. I then cannot find any more rercords except a possible marriage to Albert Lines in April 1881, but her father is now given as George, have tried sending for a birth certificate but the only possible one I could find shows a John Dick and Jane Shepherd as parents. If anybody could help me to untangle this relation I would be very grateful.

Marriage of parents from baptism

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
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Deighton Jane Lambeth 1d 411
Dick James Lambeth 1d 411

Andy

For ref.

Name: Emily Dick
Baptism Date: 22 Mar 1863
Archive Provided Parish: Croydon Common, St James
Parish as it Appears: Croydon, St James
Father: James Dick <<< Occ. Platelayer
Mother: Jane Dick
Reference Number: 2809/1/2

1871

Name: Emily A Dicks
[Emily A Dick]
[Emily A Dick]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Dicks
Mother's Name: Maria Dicks
Gender: Female
Where born: Battersea, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-registration District: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 23b
Household Schedule Number: 509
Piece: 242
Folio: 50
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dicks 54<<<<<<<<<<Platelayer, b. Scotland
Maria Dicks 50
Mary Dicks 30 b. Scotland
Frank Dicks 18
Frederic Dicks 15
Arthur Dicks 17
Alfred Dicks 8
Emily A Dicks 8
George Dicks 6
Fred Dicks 2

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Dick Jr
Name: James Dick Jr <<<engine driver
Age: Minor
Spouse Name: Jane Deighton
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Feb 1862
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Dick <<<inspector of railways
Spouse Father Name: John Deighton
Register Type: Parish Register

Emily appears to have been an only child.

There is this possible death for James

Deaths Jun 1865 (>99%)
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Dick James Shoreditch 1c 146


Andy

Thanks for prompt reply I have marriage certificate, for James Dick and Jane Deighton . I would like to establish that Emily is their daughter

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Maria Russell

Spouse Name:James Dick

Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:20 May 1838

Parish:Ealing St Mary
Borough:Ealing

Father Name:Henry Russell
Spouse Father Name:James Dick

Register Type:
Parish Register

If James Dick was a minor in age on marriage in 1862 then he cant be the same James with wife Maria on the 1871 who was aged 50.

But then you have found her later as grandaughter to them that seems more likely.


Jane was of full age on the marriage cert so over 21 and a spinster

Delete

wrong track

1851

Name: James Dick
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Dick
Mother's Name: Maria Dick
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: South Mimms
Ecclesiastical parish: Potters Bar St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Barnet
Sub-registration District: South Mimms
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 137
Piece: 1701
Folio: 99
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dick 39
Maria Dick 36
Mary Dick 11
James Dick 10 <<<<<<<<<
William Dick 4
Maria Dick 2
Henry Dick 3 Mo
Emma Barrett 14

I have the marriage certificate of James Dick and Maria Russell, he is given as of full age and a widower, I have not been able to find any details of his previous marriage.

The address on 1881 census agrees with the marriage for Emily to Albert Lines, also the occupation for father 'George' is Engine Driver' which agrees with the 1862 marriage for James and Jane.

Andy

I wonder about this one?

1871 England Census about Jane Dick
Name: Jane Dick
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Dick
Gender: Female
Where born: Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-registration District: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 23b
Household Schedule Number: 499
Piece: 242
Folio: 49
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dick 29 <<<<Scotland
Jane Dick 31
Mary Dick 7
William Dick 5
John Dick 4 Months
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No probably not though.

If her dad did die in 1865 she would have been very young so may not have known his name.

She may have said George when she married just so it didnt look like she had no dad. These things did happen then people did a lot of face saving when they didnt have facts

Rambling Rose is right this is Jane Deighton nee Jane Dick who I am trying to establish as Emily's mother .
Regarding her father James did not die untill 1913, although Mum died in 1875 father moved away, resulting in younger brother s William and Henry going to the workhouse/Industrial School.

Is this Janes death?


Name: Jane Dick
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1875
Age at Death: 35
Registration District: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 452



Have you found Emily with her brothers on any census?

When were they born ?

Just adding, looking at image of 1863 Baptism, name as Emily Jane.

Chris :)


1881
BANGS, Oliver Head Married M 23 1858 Painter
Camden Town, Middlesex
BANGS, Lisa Wife Married F 26 1855
Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
BANGS, Alfred Son Single M 3 1878
Kentish Town, Middlesex
BANGS, Albert Son Single M 0 1881
Kentish Town, Middlesex
DUKE, (Dick?) James Head Married M 70 1811 Ry Platelayer
Scotland
DUKE, Maria Wife Married F 66 1815
Walton on Thames, Surrey
DUKE, Emma Grand Daughter Single F 19 1862 Laundress
Ringwood, Hampshire
DUKE, George Grand Son Single M 15 1866
Battersea, Surrey
RG number: RG11
Piece: 216
Folio: 128
Page: 5
Sub District: Kentish Town
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Gospel Oak Grove, St Pancras
County: London, Middlesex

(above is address given 1881 Marriage for Emily)


Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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Bangs Oliver Pancras 1b 68
Dicks Emily Elizabeth Pancras 1b 68


Name: Oliver Bangs (Bachelor)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Emily Elizabeth Dicks (Spinster)
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Aug 1874
Parish: Haverstock Hill St Andrew
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Christopher Bangs
Spouse Father Name: James Dicks (Railway Servt)
Register Type: Parish Register
(2, Gospel Oak Grove, given as residence for both at time)


Births Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Dick Emma Elizabeth Huntingdon 3b 249

Sorry I deleted my posts as I realised I had the wrong father's name , but just to mention

there is this Emily

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Emly Dick
7 Dec 1859 John Dick,
Jane Dick Hampstead Holy Trinity Barnet

born 1855, so may be worth noting so as to avoid any confusion on later census' or marriages.