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Peter

Peter Report 16 Jul 2013 00:28

Thank you all so much! Very appreciated and helped me when I couldn't work it out. Been online most of the day looking at various brick walls and this one couldn't be solved alone!

My sincere thanks!

Peter

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 15 Jul 2013 21:56

1841 England Census about Sarah Yeoman
Name: Sarah Yeoman
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Egton
Hundred: Langbourgh (East Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Egton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1255
Book: 7
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Yeoman 50
Sarah Yeoman 40
William Yeoman 15
Knags Yeoman 7
Sarah Frankland 13
John Atkinson 20
Joseph Sharp 15
Hannah Hutton 30

Whilst Thomas is in the Franklin household at 1851, his wife and family are in Egton.

1851 England Census about Knaggs Yeoman
Name: Knaggs Yeoman
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Yeoman
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Egton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Egton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Egton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 49
Piece: 2374
Folio: 27
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Yeoman 52
Wm Yeoman 25
Knaggs Yeoman 17
John Cockerill 77
Jane Barnitt 19
Wm Frankland 49

By 1861, Thomas is widowed and is with his family

1861 England Census about Knaggs Yeoman
Name: Knaggs Yeoman
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Yeoman
Gender: Male
Where born: Egton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Mickleby
Town: Mickleby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Whitby
Sub-registration District: Lythe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 43
Piece: 3650
Folio: 130
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Yeoman 73
William Yeoman 35
Knaggs Yeoman 27
Hannah Medcalf 24
Joseph Pearson 11

(Edited to include 1851 census for Sarah )

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 21:51

The info found by Stuart and myself could reasonably lead to the conclusion that Thomas was actually nephew-in-law................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 21:49

Sarah's father? And Ralph's brother?


Forename:Wm
Surname:Frankland
Day:11
Month:Apr
Year:1773
Relationship:Son
Father's Name:John*********
Father's Occupation:
Mother's Name:
Abode:
Place:Egton
County:Yorkshire (North Riding)Notes:
Record source:Cleveland Baptisms
Data provider:Cleveland Family History SocietyTranscriptions © Cleveland Family History Society

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 21:46

Forename:Sarah
Surname:Frankland
Day:10
Month:Mar
Year:1799
Relationship:
Daughter
Father's Name:William
Father's Occupation:Staymaker
Mother's Name:
Abode:Egton
Place:Egton
County:Yorkshire (North Riding)Notes
:Record source:Cleveland Baptisms
Data provider:Cleveland Family History Society

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 21:45

Forename:Ralph
Surname:Frankland
Day:6
Month:Jul
Year:1777
Relationship:Son
Father's Name:John*********
Father's Occupation:Innkeeper
Mother's Name:
Abode:Egton
Place:Egton
County:Yorkshire (North Riding)Notes:
Record source:Cleveland Baptisms
Data provider:Cleveland Family History SocietyTranscriptions © Cleveland Family History Society

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Jul 2013 17:48

?????
spouse: Sarah Frankland
Name Thomas Yeoman
Birth Date 1789
Birthplace
Age 32
Spouse's Name Sarah Frankland
Spouse's Birth Date 1789
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age 32
Event Date 27 Oct 1821
Event Place Egton, York, England
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name
Spouse's Mother's Name
Race
Marital Status
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03472-3
System Origin England-EASy
GS Film number 1470401
Reference ID

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 17:47

???????

Day:28
Month:Aug
Year:1827

:Groom's forename:Ralph
Groom's surname:FRANKLAND
Groom Signed/Mark:
Bride's forename:Elizabeth
Bride's surname:ELLIOTT
Bride Signed/Mark:
Bride's abode:This Parish

Place:Pontefract
Dedication:St Giles
County:Yorks West Riding
Country:England
Society ref:M 15West Yorks archive ref:WDP 40/1/33-35Checked:CHECKED
Record source:Wakefield district marriages
Data provider:Wakefield and District Family History Society

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Jul 2013 17:44

For places of birth to see if that helps us.
As Ralph and Thomas are both born Egton - ? Thomas is the son of a older sister of Ralph's who married a Yeaman (which you have no doubt worked out yourself)

1851 census transcription details for:

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2352
Folio: 371
Page: 17
Reg. District: York
Sub District: Bramham
Parish:
Enum. District: 8C
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address:
County: Yorkshire (East riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FRANKLAND, Ralph Head Married M 73 1778 Landed Proprietor Egton, Yorkshire
FRANKLAND, Elizabeth Wife Married F 56 1795 Pontefract, Yorkshire
YEAMAN, Thomas Nephew Married M 63 1788 Farmer Egton, Yorkshire
HODGSON, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 14 1837 House Serv Egton, Yorkshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 17:41

Was Elizabeth a second wife?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 17:40

Nephew would be son of the head's sister................or of a sibling of his wife.

Posting FMP version of census....as it gives more info

1851 census


Person: FRANKLAND, Ralph Address:


FRANKLAND, Ralph Head Married M 73 1778 Landed Proprietor
Egton, Yorkshire VIEW
FRANKLAND, Elizabeth Wife Married F 56 1795
Pontefract, Yorkshire VIEW
YEAMAN, Thomas Nephew Married M 63 1788 Farmer
Egton, Yorkshire VIEW
HODGSON, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 14 1837 House Serv
Egton, Yorkshire

Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 17:12

Hi there,

I have found this census document from 1851 - I am trying to see how Thomas Yeoman is a nephew to the head of the family. I have looked on the IGI but my head is a little lost with it all. Can you help?

Name: Thomas Yeaman
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Relation: Nephew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Egton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Clifford cum Boston
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Tadcaster
Sub-registration District: Appleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 63
Piece: 2352
Folio: 425
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Ralph Frankland 73
Elizabeth Frankland 56
Thomas Yeaman 63
Elizabeth Hodgson 14

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Thanks,

Peter