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Elizabeth Mowbray( nee Bailey)

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Marilyn

Marilyn Report 22 Jul 2013 01:31

I am trying to find the death record of Elizabeth Bailey born 1874 Burton, Derbyshire, married Ernest Mowbray, my grandfather, (1865-1943) in 1910 at Havant, Hampshire, his second marriage.
I can not find a death record as Elizabeth Mowbray, possibly she re-married, so had a different surname after 1943.
If anyone could assist, I would appreciate it.

Marilyn

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2013 04:29

For Ref...is this her

1911 England Census
about Elizabeth Mowbray Name: Elizabeth Mowbray
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Burton, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Bedhampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Leigh House, Bedhampton, Havant
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 0
Estimated Marriage Year: 1911
Registration District: Havant
Registration District Number: 89
Sub-registration District: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household Schedule Number: 75
Piece: 5464
Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Mowbray 44
Elizabeth Mowbray 37
Ernest Mowbray 15
Sybil Mowbray 13
Hilton Mowbray 11
Cyril Mowbray 3


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 07:11

Have you looked on FreeBMD for a possible marriage

Who was the informant on Ernest's death cert ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 07:26

Possibly don't forget this was wartime and people moved around from areas that were affected by the bombings



Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: MOWBRAY, Elizabeth
Registration district: Warwick
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1941
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 66
Volume no: 6D
Page no:1750

Gins

Gins Report 22 Jul 2013 07:28


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name:Ernest Mowbray <<of 15 Punchbowl, Madehurst, Sussex

Probate Date:3 May 1943

Death Date:10 Jan 1943

Death Place:
Sussex, England
Registry:
Llandudno

Probate to Elizabeth Mowbray (widow) £210 7s 10d


Edit: What surname did she have after her husbands death and how do you know?

Edit: Sorry, I misread your post!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 07:43

Ah so she was still alive when Ernest died

Marilyn

Marilyn Report 22 Jul 2013 08:13

yes, still alive in 1943, was the informant on death cert fir Ernest in Sussex.
She was then 68/69. Can't find a death record for her as Mowbray or Bailey.

Thanks for your suggestions.
Marilyn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 12:03

Have you tried to trace any of the children to see if they stayed in the area

Its possible too that as Ernest died in 1943 in the midst of WW2 she still may have moved from the area.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 12:19

picking on one of the younger sons

Name: Hilton Redvers Mowbray
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1900
Registration District: Chertsey
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 59

the only one that matches the birth year

Name: Hilton Mowbray
Birth Date: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Jun 1923
Age at Death: 23
Registration District: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 908



so trying this one! is this Sybil??

Name: Gertrude Sybil Mowbray
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 4 Sep 1899
Christening Place: Yarmouth, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: Ernest Mowbray
Mother's Name: Gertrude

yep its the same family

1901 England Census about Gertrude Sybil Mowbray
Name: Gertrude Sybil Mowbray
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Ernest Mowbray
Mother's Name: Gertrude Mowbray
Gender: Female
Where born: Chobham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Chobham
Ecclesiastical parish: West End Holy Trinity
Town: Chobham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Chertsey
Sub-registration District: Chobham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 595
Folio: 59
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Mowbray 37
Gertrude Mowbray 28
Helen Amelia Mowbray 7
Ernest George Mowbray 5
Gertrude Sybil Mowbray 3
Hilton Redvers Mowbray 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 595; Folio: 59; Page: 10


died in Lincolnshire


Name: Gertrude S Mowbray
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Dec 1966
Age at Death: 70
Registration District: Boston
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 20

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 12:24

not helping much you probably have those records anyway but plodding on !!

Name: Ernest George Mowbray
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Registration District: Havant
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 403


Name: Ernest George Mowbray
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 24
Birth Parish: Farlington
Birth County: Hampshire
Document Year: 1920
Regimental Number: 233290
Regiment Name: Royal Engineers
Number of images: 11


wonder if this is his second initial incorrect

Civil Registration event: Death


Name: MOWBRAY, Ernest E
Registration district: Watford
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1956
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 61
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 3

Edit not his death as there is an Ernest Edward Mowbray born in c1895

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 12:38

??

MarriageFinder: Ernest G Mowbray married Dorothy B Knight
Name: MOWBRAY, Ernest G
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Knight
Volume no: 6A
Page no: 437
Name: KNIGHT, Dorothy B
Registration district: Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Mowbray
Volume no: 6A

she remarries

Name: Dorothy B Mowbray
Spouse Surname: White
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration District: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 932
Find Spouse: George White

So now in Chichester



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jul 2013 12:51

Think I am just going round in circles and not helping at all !! :-(


did Elizabeth have any children with Ernest ?

Marilyn

Marilyn Report 22 Jul 2013 23:29

No children that I know of with Elizabeth and Ernest.

I have all the info on Ernest and first wife Gertrude's children,Helen, Ernest, Sybil,

Hilton, Cyril( my father). No, none stayed in the area.

Ernest was not Ernest G, so no to a Dorothy.

Yes, could have moved from Sussex, where husband, Ernest died.

Thanks again.
Marilyn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jul 2013 08:14

According to the 1901 census he was Ernest George.

This is his birth

Births Mar 1896
Mowbray Ernest George Havant 2b 403

Marilyn

Marilyn Report 23 Jul 2013 09:33

Ernest George 1896-1978 was the son of Ernest 1865-1943. Ernest G married an Edith Farr in Canada.

Marilyn