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Mary Cuthbertson & Jonathan Dobson

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Frances

Frances Report 22 Jul 2013 15:11

Mary Cuthbertson, born 1865 married Jonathan Dobson, born 1862 (he was born in Cassop, Co Durham). They had a daughter Isabella Jane, born 1885 (my grandmother). Jonathan died in 1886. Mary married again, a William Swan and they had a daughter Frances Ann.

Can anyone help?

Potty

Potty Report 22 Jul 2013 15:18

What exactly are you looking for, Frances? Are you wanting to backwards with them?

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jul 2013 15:18

What sort of info are you looking for? Ancestors, descendents, census?

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jul 2013 15:21

For info only

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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CUTHBERTSON Mary Ann Durham 10a 425
Dobson Jonathan Durham 10a 425


and

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
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DOBSON Mary Ann Gateshead 10a 937
Swann William Gateshead 10a 937


1891 census

William Swan 28
Mary A Swan 25
Isabella Jane Dobson 5
Francis Ann Swan 2


1901??

William Swan 38
Mary A Swan 35
Isa Swan 15
Florence Swan 12
William E Swan 3
Edward Robson 34



Andy

Potty

Potty Report 22 Jul 2013 15:29

the marriage certs will give you fathers' names and occupations to help identify them on the census.

Potty

Potty Report 22 Jul 2013 15:32

This could be Mary Ann in 1881:

Cockerton
County/Island:Durham
Street Address:
Stooperdale

All born Darlington
Thomas Cuthbertson 51 Tailor,
Eliza Cuthbertson 48
Joseph Cuthbertson 20
John Thomas Cuthbertson 13
Jane Elizabeth Cuthbertson 27
Mary Ann Cuthbertson 16 Dairy Maid
Isabel Cuthbertson 8
Joseph Pollard Cuthbertson 15

Potty

Potty Report 22 Jul 2013 15:40

Jonathan in 1881:

1881 England Census about Jane Kearton
Name:Jane Kearton
Age:39
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1842
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name: James Kearton
Where born: South Hiten, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Cassop
County/Island:Durham


James Kearton 50
Jane Kearton 39
Jonathan Dobson Kearton 18
Sarah Kearton 16
Margaret Ann Kearton 13
James Christopher Kearton 9
Jane Elizabeth Kearton 6

He is on the 1871 as Jonathan Dobson, son-in-law of James Kirton and Jane

safc

safc Report 22 Jul 2013 15:51

Search Results From Marriages 1861 to 1870

Details of your chosen Marriage certificate (including spouse) are as follows:

Surname Forename(s) Year District
92% DOBSON Jane 1870 Durham Western
92% KEARTON James 1870 Durham Western

http://nd.durham.gov.uk/gro/newgro.nsf/search?open&C0326955070407042009$

safc

safc Report 22 Jul 2013 15:56

James Kirton, "England and Wales Census, 1871"
Name: James Kirton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Starforth, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Auckland
Sub-District: Bishop Auckland
Parish: Coundon
County: Durham
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self James Kirton M 40 Starforth, Yorkshire
Wife Jane Kirton F 30 South Hetton, Durham
Son-in-law Jonathan Dobson M 9 Newton Cap, Durham
Daughter Sarah Jane Dobson F 5 Coundongate, Durham
Daughter Margarat Ann Dobson F 3 Coundongate, Durham

Chris

Chris Report 22 Jul 2013 16:27

possible for 1861 census???

Jane Dobson age 23 born South Hetton wife
Robert Dobson age 22 born Harperley Durham
Jane Ann born 1861 born Thornley Durham

Living in Thornley

Death: Robert Dobson aged 30
Mar Q 1869
Auckland 10a 111

safc

safc Report 22 Jul 2013 16:31

Jonathan Dobson, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Jonathan Dobson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Aug 1862
Christening Place: AUCKLAND SAINT ANDREW,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Dobson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: D19720-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: unknown
Reference ID:

Thelma

Thelma Report 22 Jul 2013 16:39


Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Coxon John Easington 10a 439 Scan available - click to view
Dobson Robert Easington 10a 439 Scan available - click to view
Oliver Sarah Jane Easington 10a 439 Scan available - click to view
Smart Helen Easington 10a 439

Frances

Frances Report 22 Jul 2013 19:08

Thank everyone for their replies - I have some certificates, although some of the names don't match up. In the 1891 Census for William Swan, it shows that Mary Ann was born at Earsdon, Northumberland, and also shows her daughter Isabella Jane Dobson was living with them.


Marrriage Certificate - March 1883
1. Jonathan Dobson (father Robert Dobson - Coal Miner - deceased)
2 . Mary Ann Cuthbertson (father William Cuthbertson - Coal Miner

Birth Certificate
1 .Isabella Jane Dobson - born 1885 - South Shields
2. Father - Jonathan Dobson - Coal Miner
3. Mother - Mary Ann Dobson (formerly Robinson) (??)

Marriage Certificate - 1887
1. William Swan (father - Robert Swan - miner)
2. Mary Ann Dobson (father - Joseph Robinson - miner) (??)

Birth Certificate
1. Frances Ann Swan - born 1888 - Ryhope
2. Father - William Swan - Coal miner
3. Mother - Mary Ann Swan, late Dobson, formerly Cuthbertson (??)

Marriage Certificate - 1904
1. St Frederick Brown (father William Christopher Brown - farmer)
2. Isabella Jane Dobson (father Joseph (??) Dobson - miner


Mary Ann shows the names Cuthbertson, Robinson and Dobson
also her father is shown as William Cuthbertson and Joseph Robinson - I am totally confused. Are there two Mary Ann's - Can anyone help?

Frances





Potty

Potty Report 23 Jul 2013 09:54

Interestingly, the 1891 image, there is a Joseph Robinson, Coal Miner, with wife Isabella, living in the same buildings as the William and Mary Ann (and there is a John Cutherbertson living there too!)

Potty

Potty Report 23 Jul 2013 10:03

What address does Mary Ann give on the 1883 marriage cert?

Potty

Potty Report 23 Jul 2013 10:19

Only thing I can think of is that Mary Ann's mother remarried and that one of the father's is her real father and the other her stepfather. I did look for a connection to the Joseph Robinson in the 1891 but have found him back to 1871 - no children shown.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 23 Jul 2013 13:50

Just to make things more confusing...
Aren't these the people Potty pointed out on the 1891:
1881 Ancestry
Joseph Robinson 52
Isabella Robinson 45
Maria Robinson 13 (Is this Mary Ann and where is she in 1871)

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4975; Folio: 90; Page: 4
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And who is this and where is he in 1891?????
1911 England Census about Joseph Robinson Dobson
Name: Joseph Robinson Dobson
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hetton-Le-Hole, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Earsdon
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 41 South St Bertram Place Earsdon
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Rolleyway Underground
Registration District: Tynemouth
Registration District Number: 559
Sub-registration District: Whitley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 30798

Joseph Robinson Dobson 27
Margaret Christina Dobson 32
Isabella Robinson 75
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 30798

Maureen

Potty

Potty Report 23 Jul 2013 14:26

1901 - living in Heworth, Gateshead, Durham

Isabella Robinson 65 Paule, Yorkshire, England - same POB as in 1891
Joseph R Dobson 17 Hutton le Hole, Durham, grandson